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Single Payer, Socialized Medicine, Medicare for all, "Free" health care, etc. All the same-taxpayer funded health care. I see a whole lot of liberals promoting this-including those that should be smart enough to know better that have been elected to congress. So-how much more are YOU, personally, willing to pay in taxes to fund "free" health care?
And NO-you can't pass the buck by saying "tax the rich"-the rich already pay most of the taxes in this country. How much are YOU willing to contribute? How much will you cut from your budget? What will you do without? If you don't currently have a job-or enough extra-you'll have to get one or another job to pay your share.
You assume it would cost more than what people pay now, but a study conducted by none other than Koch Bros shows it would actually cost less.
Maybe the question should be directed at the opponents of such system, asking what size discount would get them to support it ($5K, $10K, $15K, etc)
Increase the top tax bracket to 45% and keep the existing brackets the same, meaning if you're a family earning less than $600,000 a year, you won't feel any difference.
Institute a federal VAT on all goods.
Have the government negotiate prices on behalf of the consumers so the price of medicine and procedures is less than what it's today in the USA.
Cut the defense budget by any amount necessary if the above is not sufficient to make ends meet.
Is it a safe bet that your family is earning less than $600,000? So very few do.
I'd say that we'd raise more money by kicking up the tax bracket on affluent, upper-middle class families - around $250,000 a year - by a couple of points. That's the top 2% - 3% of families, meaning that 97% of families wouldn't feel any difference.
And as far as cutting the defense budget by any amount necessary, you mean even if we put our national security at risk? Whatever it takes to provide Medicaid for all?
The better question is are you and you buddies in the GOP ready to stop sucking pharma companies you know what to take advantage of the American people. To advance potential coverage to all Americans. When ever you're ready to do that we can start talking.
This problem is created by both sides. I agree this needs to stop. There is also a lot more to medical care than just the cost of pharmaceuticals.
"Nine out of 10 members of the House of Representatives and all but three of the US’s 100 senators have taken campaign contributions from pharmaceutical companies seeking to affect legislation on everything from the cost of drugs to how new medicines are approved."
The people that support single payer are willing to go to full 100% taxation...of other people's money.
How much are they, themselves willing to pay, they never answer that question.
Well, so far nobody has answered the question.
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The better question is are you and you buddies in the GOP ready to stop sucking pharma companies you know what to take advantage of the American people. To advance potential coverage to all Americans. When ever you're ready to do that we can start talking.
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I suspect this question will be ignored.
I get a pretty good laugh at people that think the democrats don't sell out to big pharma, and the insurance industry.
Who do you think wrote the Obamacare bill?
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Increase the top tax bracket to 45% and keep the existing brackets the same, meaning if you're a family earning less than $600,000 a year, you won't feel any difference.
Institute a federal VAT on all goods.
Have the government negotiate prices on behalf of the consumers so the price of medicine and procedures is less than what it's today in the USA.
Cut the defense budget by any amount necessary if the above is not sufficient to make ends meet.
Do you know that all military, and DHS funding is around $600 billion?
Do you know that a single payer system would cost in the trillions?
You could take the entire military, and DHS funding, and only put a small dent in the cost of single payer.
Why am I not surprised that NO liberal actually answered the poll of how much of THEIR money they would pay for this...but several have said how they want to get others to pay? Not exactly a new characteristic of the left. Gimmegimme, all without working something themselves.
Since all other countries with UHC pays 50% of what the US pays for its healthcare, the question should be: Are you willing to pay $5000 less per year in taxes to get UHC and never worry about your healthcare costs ever again?
Why am I not surprised that NO liberal actually answered the poll of how much of THEIR money they would pay for this...but several have said how they want to get others to pay? Not exactly a new characteristic of the left. Gimmegimme, all without working something themselves.
VAT would apply to everyone who buys things. Do you know what a VAT is? Do you need me to spell you the basics?
Do you know that all military, and DHS funding is around $600 billion?
Do you know that a single payer system would cost in the trillions?
You could take the entire military, and DHS funding, and only put a small dent in the cost of single payer.
It would cost around $1.5 trillion, but it would not have to come from military budget. The government is already spending a LOT in healthcare, so it is not $1.5 trillion in addition to what we already pay. And currently we pay about $10 000 out of out own pockets in premiums, co-pays and deductibles, so in the end of the day we would not see any less in our paychecks. On the contrary we would probably see more.
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