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Disabling the disconnector doesn't affect the functionality of the trigger.
True but disabling it in a semi auto can also allow firing out of battery. Not a desirable likelihood. Modding a semi auto to full auto function is just not some easy or safe thing to do. There's more to a conversion than just a file or Dremmel tool.
True but disabling it in a semi auto can also allow firing out of battery. Not a desirable likelihood.
How? Review the design of the M-1 Carbine. What will cause the firing pin to protrude from the bolt (causing the gun to fire) while the bolt is out of battery?
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Modding a semi auto to full auto function is just not some easy or safe thing to do. There's more to a conversion than just a file or Dremmel tool.
And that was the point of my first post on this topic.
Truth. A 1911 A1 cane be made into a "full auto" by taking meat off the sear and early Gold Cup had an adjustable sear that could get out of whack and do the same. However as any shooter with a lick of sense knows that's hardly a good thing. A 1911 that just dumps a magazine is an uncontrollable and dangerous thing.
"Modifications" such as we are discussing don't allow a given weapon to stop firing when the trigger is released. Not a desirable thing.
Case in point, my best friend when he was alive, bought a Wilson Combat 1911, from Wilson gun company, the trigger had been set so light, that the action of releasing the slide, from the slide release caused the gun to go off. My friend did not even have his finger near the trigger. Carl was a very experienced shooter, and knew what not to do.
He sent it back to Wilson, to get the trigger pull increased to around 4 pounds, instead of the less than 1 pound it had been set to.
As indicated laws should be for the punishment of a crime, and not for making the law abiding into criminals by turning a legally purchased gun or magazine into something that is now illegal.
Case in point, my best friend when he was alive, bought a Wilson Combat 1911, from Wilson gun company, the trigger had been set so light, that the action of releasing the slide, from the slide release caused the gun to go off. My friend did not even have his finger near the trigger. Carl was a very experienced shooter, and knew what not to do.
He sent it back to Wilson, to get the trigger pull increased to around 4 pounds, instead of the less than 1 pound it had been set to.
As indicated laws should be for the punishment of a crime, and not for making the law abiding into criminals by turning a legally purchased gun or magazine into something that is now illegal.
Actually they are in violation of ex post facto laws that are written into the Constitution.
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Ex post facto laws retroactively change the rules of evidence in a criminal case, retroactively alter the definition of a crime, retroactively increase the punishment for a criminal act, or punish conduct that was legal when committed. They are prohibited by Article I, Section 10, Clause 1, of the U.S. Constitution. An ex post facto law is considered a hallmark of tyranny because it deprives people of a sense of what behavior will or will not be punished and allows for random punishment at the whim of those in power.
The prohibition of ex post facto laws was an imperative in colonial America. The Framers of the Constitution understood the importance of such a prohibition, considering the historical tendency of government leaders to abuse power. As Alexander Hamilton observed, "[i]t is easy for men … to be zealous advocates for the rights of the citizens when they are invaded by others, and as soon as they have it in their power, to become the invaders themselves." The desire to thwart abuses of power also inspired the Framers of the Constitution to prohibit bills of attainder, which are laws that inflict punishment on named individuals or on easily ascertainable members of a group without the benefit of a trial. Both ex post facto laws and bills of attainder deprive those subject to them of due process of law—that is, of notice and an opportunity to be heard before being deprived of life, liberty, or property.---https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Ex+Post+Facto+Laws
Case in point, my best friend when he was alive, bought a Wilson Combat 1911, from Wilson gun company, the trigger had been set so light, that the action of releasing the slide, from the slide release caused the gun to go off. My friend did not even have his finger near the trigger. Carl was a very experienced shooter, and knew what not to do.
He sent it back to Wilson, to get the trigger pull increased to around 4 pounds, instead of the less than 1 pound it had been set to.
As indicated laws should be for the punishment of a crime, and not for making the law abiding into criminals by turning a legally purchased gun or magazine into something that is now illegal.
Hmmm... I’m curious how the hammer was able to fall past the half-c**k notch and fire the gun if the trigger wasn’t depressed. Those who understand how a 1911 operates are curious about this strange phenomenon.
Hmmm... I’m curious how the hammer was able to fall past the half-c**k notch and fire the gun if the trigger wasn’t depressed. Those who understand how a 1911 operates are curious about this strange phenomenon.
I have an idea... it seems very feasible to do this...
Especially when aftermarket components are thrown into the mix that vary from original Colt components...
Or... if someone took a file to "something" at the "wrong angle" wink wink... nudge nudge... Half c**k rendered useless
Case in point, my best friend when he was alive, bought a Wilson Combat 1911, from Wilson gun company, the trigger had been set so light, that the action of releasing the slide, from the slide release caused the gun to go off. My friend did not even have his finger near the trigger. Carl was a very experienced shooter, and knew what not to do.
He sent it back to Wilson, to get the trigger pull increased to around 4 pounds, instead of the less than 1 pound it had been set to.
As indicated laws should be for the punishment of a crime, and not for making the law abiding into criminals by turning a legally purchased gun or magazine into something that is now illegal.
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Hmmm... I’m curious how the hammer was able to fall past the half-c**k notch and fire the gun if the trigger wasn’t depressed. Those who understand how a 1911 operates are curious about this strange phenomenon.
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Originally Posted by NY_refugee87
I have an idea... it seems very feasible to do this...
Especially when aftermarket components are thrown into the mix that vary from original Colt components...
Or... if someone took a file to "something" at the "wrong angle" wink wink... nudge nudge... Half c**k rendered useless
I trusted my friend with my life, all I can say if I have seen a 1911 with a very light trigger; and it would not take very much pressure to get the trigger to go off. On a hare trigger almost looking at it could get the trigger to go off.
You put a loaded magazine in the magazine well, and release the slide on a full magazine. Normal operations from that point on a 1911 you could either engage the manual safety, or as you indicate press the trigger and hold the hammer, then by placing the hammer in the half c*ck position.
As I indicated just the pressure of the slide being release on a full magazine, the trigger was set so light, that action was enough pressure, the mere vibration of the slide going into full battery, was enough pressure to have the gun go off.
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Those who understand how a 1911 operates are curious about this strange phenomenon.
