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Old 01-24-2019, 11:41 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You know they did this same thing with John McCain, but Bush was President. Get this. The same script and the same exact players.
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So this is about the same players involved today, that were involved back in 2007 with McCain.

June 2017 - Here's the Russia influence controversy that John McCain doesn’t want you to know about

McCain’s drama involved the same foreign lobbyist Paul Manafort; one of the same Russian oligarchs, Oleg Deripaska; the same Russian diplomat, Sergey Kislyak, and the same wily Russian leader, Vladimir Putin, that now dominate the current Trump controversy.

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Manafort was first questioned by the FBI about his Russian and Ukrainian ties in 2014, two years before he became Trump’s campaign manager, and agents probed him on how he first came to work for Deripaska through McCain’s top political adviser, a source confirmed to Circa.


So the FBI already knew who Manafort was before he joined Team Trump.

Back in 2007...

“Before there was Trump, there were concerns about some of the same people being around McCain about 10 years ago, and we alerted his team to those concerns and they appeared to take some defensive action,” according to a U.S. official, who was involved a decade ago and remains in the counterintelligence world. The official spoke only on condition of anonymity.

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“Davis repeatedly tried to bring Manafort into the McCain campaign and we were able to stop it and even have Davis removed for his ties to pro-Russian efforts,” Weaver said. “But this was short-lived as Davis actually and literally cried to the Senator every day for weeks until John relented and allowed Davis back.”


Interesting that McCain fully understood who Manafort was, and was diligent to keep his distance from him back then... yet 10 years later McCain (and others) allowed Manafort to be attached to Trump to attempt to bring Trump down because he knew Manafort was dirty.

Both the FBI (the lofty elite) and McCain knew they could get Trump if Manafort was attached to him. Manafort was only under Trump for 3 months.


Who was McCain's campaign manager? What is his relation to Manafort?
The same players. Christopher Steele wrote this script in 2007 and played it out... twice.
They had to wedge Manafort into the Trump team, to make the spying they have been doing already, legal.
Manafort was the key to the FISA on Carter Page.
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Old 01-24-2019, 12:04 PM
 
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The same players. Christopher Steele wrote this script in 2007 and played it out... twice.
They had to wedge Manafort into the Trump team, to make the spying they have been doing already, legal.
Manafort was the key to the FISA on Carter Page.
Glenn Simpson - not Steele. Steele was hired by Simpson after Clinton paid Perkins Coie, who then paid Simpson at Fusion GPS.



Here's the 2007 WSJ article with Simpson and his wife.

How Lobbyists Help Ex-Soviets Woo Washington

Paul Manafort, a former adviser to Mr. Dole's presidential campaign, has advised a Ukrainian metals billionaire and his close political ally, Ukrainian Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovich. Mr. Yanukovich, who favors closer ties with Mr. Putin's administration, is embroiled in a power struggle with pro-Western Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko.


So he was with the Dole campaign as well. Manafort is obviously bad news. They all knew it.

More than the content of the article is the fact that Glenn Simpson of Fusion FPS, who wrote this article with his wife, knew who everyone was.

They all knew that once Manafort was tied to Trump, they would link Trump to Russian influence.

Clinton paid for it through Perkins Coie and Fusion... Perkins Coie skipped the normal FBI process of intelligence gathering and went to Baker to get the info straight to the investigation division.

This article does show how motivated Russia is take advantage of America. They deep within the highest levels of government on both sides of the aisle.
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Old 01-24-2019, 01:25 PM
 
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Yup. Been saying for 2+ years, the Russian thing is a meme. Just like when Clinton started the Birther thing on Obama. This is what they do.

This confirms it. They had $2B to spend. Here is, no doubt, where a significant portion went.

Clinton's 2016 Strategy Revealed: Overwhelm FBI With Trump-Russia Narrative Until Something Stuck


Why? Because they knew they lost to Trump on any real issue like Jobs, Terrorism, Crony Capitalism, Outsourcing, Wars of Choice.
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:25 PM
 
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This whole thing is beyond disgusting. What galls me the most is the idiots that believe the dishonest press and say it's not real when all the evidence is RIGHT THERE.
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Old 01-28-2019, 10:13 AM
 
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From Feb. 2018...

Former Senior FBI Official Is Leading BuzzFeed’s Effort to Verify Trump Dossier

For the last six months, a team led by a former top FBI and White House cybersecurity official has been traveling the globe on a secret mission to verify parts of the Trump dossier, according to four sources familiar with different aspects of the ongoing probe.

Their client: BuzzFeed, the news organization that first published the dossier on U.S. President Donald Trump’s alleged ties to Russia, which is now being sued over its explosive allegations.

The investigation, being conducted by FTI Consulting, is running in parallel to special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia in Kremlin-directed efforts to interfere with the 2016 presidential election.


If the dossier was true, why were they still trying to verify its contents?

Who was working on this at FTI Consulting?

Anthony Ferrante, a former top FBI official who previously served as director for cyber incident response at the U.S. National Security Council during the Barack Obama administration, is now at FTI Consulting, where he is leading the effort.

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Prior to joining the NSC in 2015, Ferrante was chief of staff for the FBI’s cyber division at headquarters under then-Director James Comey.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:11 AM
 
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More on FTI Consulting...

EU parliament hosts Russian propaganda circus

Russian TV, blacklisted officials, and lobbyists in the European Parliament on Wednesday (27 April) hurled accusations at a deceased Russian lawyer and attacked EU institutions.

TV crews from five pro-Kremlin outlets - NTV, 1TV, 5-TV, Live Ru and Vesti - went to a parliament film premiere on Sergei Magnitsky, who denounced corruption in Russia and who was subsequently killed in prison.



If you want to know about Magnitsky and the Magnitsky Act, signed to law in 2012 by Congress and Obama you can go here. What Really Irritates Vladimir Putin? The Magnitsky Act


What is relevant is the Putin has been putting in max effort to get this act overturned. They made a movie that put their spin on events that took place with Magnitsky in trying to turn opinion against Magnitsky and for Putin.
Natalia Veselnitskaya, a lawyer-lobbyist for Prevezon, a firm on trial in the US for laundering the funds, also came to the EU premiere.

Does that name sound familiar? Here's the refresh. Homeland Security confirms special entry for Russian lawyer


What about FTI Consulting?

FTI Consulting, a lobby firm in the EU capital, circulated her statement to media.

FTI Consulting’s Aled Williams, a former British diplomat who was until last December the UK’s spokesman in Brussels, fixed meetings between the Prevezon lawyer and journalists.



So not only was FTI attempting to verify the Steele Dossier, and also aligned itself with pro-Putin propaganda.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:21 AM
 
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Anyone heard of Mark Malloch Brown?

FTI Consulting Appoints Lord Malloch-Brown as Chairman, Global Affairs

Here's his bio from Bloomberg.

Executive Profile: Mark Malloch-Brown

Lord Mark Malloch-Brown serves as a Senior Advisor to FTI Consulting. Lord Malloch-Brown sits in the House of Lords and is active both in business and in the non-profit world. He served as the Chairman for Europe, Middle East and Africa at FTI Consulting. He is a former number two in the United Nations as well as having served in the British Cabinet and Foreign Office. He also remains deeply involved in international affairs. He served as Deputy Secretary-General and Chief of Staff of the UN under Kofi Annan.

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His other positions have included vice-chairman of George Soros’s Investment Funds, as well as his Open Society Institute.


Oh...

Here is his page as a board member of Soros' Open Society Foundation

Mark Malloch-Brown

So there is a direct connection at the top between FTI Consulting and Soros.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:24 AM
 
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It's not a theory. This is all out in the open. It just doesn't get reported by the fake news media you rely on, because their job is to keep the people un-, mis-, and disinformed.
Uh huh...
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:28 AM
 
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Here's a bonus...

Lord Mark Malloch-Brown presents Smartmatic technology

Lord Mark Malloch-Brown, a renowned authority in international affairs and Chairman of the world leader in election automation Smartmatic, presented the credentials of the multinational company in Puerto Rico and highlighted the benefits that technology offers to election management.

“There is nothing more powerful in a country than voting. Transparent elections, with quick and precise results, have a direct link to a country’s economic development. A reliable voting process grants legitimacy to the elected representatives and is a fundamental tool in the strengthening of democracy”, said Malloch-Brown, an expert in foreign affairs and a consultant on economic development matters.



Concern Grows Over Soros-Linked Voting Machines

The U.K.-based Smartmatic company posted a flow-chart on its website that it had provided voting machines for 16 states, including important battleground states like Florida and Arizona. Smartmatic Chairman Mark Malloch-Brown is a former U.N. official and sits on the board of Soros’ Open Society Foundations.
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Old 01-28-2019, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Full time in the RV
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Let's assume the vast majority of the things in this thread are true.

The thread suggests connectivity from the late 90s to the present. All these players, some from other countries, over several decades, are all connected to the Clintons. The Clintons have been in politics for decades so no doubt they know many of the players one way or another. There are crimes alleged all throughout this time.


Why, with all this "evidence" hasn't the POTUS-any POTUS-taken action?
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