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View Poll Results: Do you believe in man made climate change?
Yes 123 59.42%
No 84 40.58%
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Since the climate changes naturally, constantly, and drastically, how can you tell how much of it is man made, and how much of it is the sun, and nature? What percent is Man's fault?

What will tax revenue do to fix it? What if the natural change amount goes up as it has for millennia?


No offence, but these are questions a kid in grade one would ask. Good questions, but the answers are at your finger tips and as an adult, you should have already read what climate scientists have to say
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Yes
It is far less than the left will admit.

It is far more than the right will admit.

PS picking 1850 for the baseline of any comparison of temperature is deliberate manipulation of data. 1850 ended the little ice age. Maybe I want to start all my graphs in 1936. (A freakishly warm year)
It far more than a left/right. It's global issue, where your right/left American politics mean nothing to the rest of the world.
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Old 01-28-2019, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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If you don't sign it, I'm going to throw it out there publicly:

"Rep" comment left on my post on this thread. My post:

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I'm curious why the 100 other threads on "man made" climate change weren't enough for you.

The climate changes. Always has. Always will. Changed before man ever came along. Will continue to change long after man kills itself off because man is so stupid. Or, in 12 years when AOC predicts we will all die out if we don't turn to socialism - either way, who cares, the climate changes with or without man.
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"Usually because of an asteroid/meteor strike. Like it or not, man’s pollution has changed the atmosphere in such a swift way that the resultant effects will be powerful and in many cases deadly."
Is there a reason you didn't want to say that on the thread? You knew your "logic" would be eviscerated? Is that really what you're going to go with? I wouldn't have signed my name to that, either.
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Old 01-28-2019, 04:35 PM
 
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No, move to Nebraska, in a few years the waves will be lapping up onto your front lawn there. There is no question that we humans are destroying this little planet God gave us. We have polluted and poisoned it to the point where things are happening at a much faster rate than the normal events that would occur naturally .

The people who deny the rapid rate of these changes need to open their eyes and start listening to the people who do this stuff for a living, not to some real estate salesman from NYC, who doesn't know his ******* from a hole in the ground.

Yes we're screwing up the planet, and we'll likely cause the extinction of polar bears and other species but... Earth itself will ultimately be fine. WE, on the other hand, won't be.
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Old 01-28-2019, 04:46 PM
 
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My hunch is that it's mostly a bunch of crap...a made up boogeyman to scare people into compliance. Your first clue it's a psy-op is when some sleazy DC critter like Al-Gore (rhythm) and Hollywood hypocrites who fly around in their private jets are pushing it like mad. Man has been spewing CO2 into the atmosphere for 150 years and it's barely moved the needle. That being said, the Earth's climate does appear to change over LONG arcs of time and may kill us all someday. That I won't deny.
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Old 01-28-2019, 05:59 PM
 
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if you didn't question the validity of the assumptions used to create UN (IPCC) climate models when prediction after prediction over three decades never came to pass, then it isn't science you are concerned with, it's dogma. Proponents of this dogma are reality deniers.

I love how the prophets of Davos jet around in their private planes, drunk on consumption and ego, slurring the world is going to end in 12 years unless the masses of petulant, mouth-breathing Cretins quit bellowing about freedom and submit to their divine intellect.

Pathetic. The whole lot of 'em.

I heard this year they were lamenting the fact their plans were falling apart... Popular uprising against their fuel taxes in France. Britain fighting for their sovereignty and self-determination, dissolution of socialist Venezuela, Brazil rejecting their edicts and electing a conservative. "Chaos!", they cried. Don't these people know we alone know what's best for them? Yeah, they get the best the world has to offer while the rest of us get to stand in long bread lines and perhaps put on an extra blanket to ward off the cold at home.

I love their tears.

Climate change has been going on for time immemorial. If it gets warmer, the earth will get greener, there will be more arable land and more food can be grown. Nobody talks about the benefits of a greener Earth. Talking about the benefits doesn't lower your resistance to having your wealth confiscated. You won't indict yourself for imaginary climate crimes.

Don't buy into it until you see the rich selling their beachfront property at ridiculously cheap prices. Until then, I'm going to drive my Jeep, use my heat and AC, eat what I want, and enjoy living my life. You should too.
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:28 PM
 
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No offence, but these are questions a kid in grade one would ask. Good questions, but the answers are at your finger tips and as an adult, you should have already read what climate scientists have to say
LOL. I'm awaiting your answer to these supposedly self-evident, grade one questions.

Here's another grade one question: What is 5 + 5 ?
Should the answer be, "Have you read what Pythagoras had to say?"
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:31 PM
 
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Here is the bottom line Climate Change doesn’t give a crap whether you believe in it or not.

Maybe we do deserve to go extinct after all
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:34 PM
 
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Here is the bottom line Climate Change doesn’t give a crap whether you believe in it or not.

Maybe we do deserve to go extinct after all
We will. Even the Bible says so. So it is just a matter of when.
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:44 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Build a house. Put n a family of four or five. See how the house is impacted after a month, a year, a decade, a lifetime.

I think it is impossible to believe that billions of people who have lived on the earth has not changed the climate in some way through a detrimental approach to Earth. The comparison to a house is not perfect, but face it, after fifty years, that house is going to be different than it was when it was built.
Exactly! Not to mention how many people have been born in just the last hundred years. The Earths population has quadrupled in 100 years. Not to mention we're all driving suburbans commuting day in and day out. Just think about this tree's, and other vergitation absorb CO2, and we've cut down half the trees while increasing the CO2 10 fold you'd have to be a complete idiot to think that equation adds up.
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