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View Poll Results: Who does the money you have legally earned belong to?
The society 3 2.22%
The government 10 7.41%
You 117 86.67%
I don’t know. 5 3.70%
Voters: 135. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-28-2019, 09:43 AM
 
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I'm actually starting to think that the only morally legit tax is sales tax. All the other forms are kind of robbery at gun point.
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:45 AM
 
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I'm actually starting to think that the only morally legit tax is sales tax. All the other forms are kind of robbery at gun point.
If you believe that, you'd have to believe civility is immoral.
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:49 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If you have no society, you have no need for money. Money is only good as a medium of exchange with other entities which recognize it. Without society, money would have no value. If you choose to live in a society, you should be happy to pay your share towards its upkeep and expenses. If you aren't happy about it, find a place where there is no society and go for it.

Pro Tip: You may get lonely living alone without the benefits of a society. and books, WiFI, television, radio, and other such diversions will not be available. Hunting and gathering and stone knapping and chewing hides to make them soft enough for clothing will keep you pretty busy, though.

When the crap hits the fan, printed paper, gold, silver and other metals, won't have much value.
Money will be guns and ammo, food, water & firewood.
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:52 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The Mafia shakedown, is the Fascist model.
Here in the USA we are armed and don't need governments protection.
Without/before the 16th amendment, we held a gun to governments head.
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:53 AM
 
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Anarchy is the way to do it, right?
Anarchy defined as a 100% purely voluntary society where all associations, contracts and debts are voluntary, and free from an oppressive stat that sanctions and commits violence it has no moral or logical basis for? It's absolutely the way to go, thank you for asking.
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:56 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Wow how arbitrary of you

Robbery is defined as the unlawful taking of property. The government sets the laws per the constitution. So it's a hard sell to claim income taxes are robbery.

Immoral is an even better one. Many would argue that refusing to pay taxes while still enjoying the benefits of living in a modern society is immoral. You're writing messages in a forum on the internet right now so don't pretend you don't benefit from society.



Robbery is the taking of what is mine, by another person, I cannot fight back against to prevent it.
You agree & consent, you are the property of others to play with you.
How does it feel to be the property of your MASTERS?
I would not know. Explain it to us.
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:58 AM
 
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Anarchy defined as a 100% purely voluntary society where all associations, contracts and debts are voluntary, and free from an oppressive stat that sanctions and commits violence it has no moral or logical basis for? It's absolutely the way to go, thank you for asking.
Anarchy leads to oppression, which leads individual anarchist to form governments with other anarchist to enforce rule of law, and civility, consequently oppressing criminals. If you oppose taxes, simply go live in the woods and do not engage with society. However, you want a better life, so you take steps to engage with others to meet that goal...which leads to you voluntarily working, and consequently paying taxes, and engaging in the economy, which you are not forced to do. You do not have to become employed. You do not have to buy something. Work and shopping are choices you make voluntarily.
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Old 01-28-2019, 10:01 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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No, not a sovereign citizen argument. Were you on Youtube?
I'm a person, how about you? Do you have a MASTER that will own everything you do?

Was there something I said, that you disagree with?
Seems you would have pointed it out.


It is the entire reason for the 2nd Amendment and armed while in public and surrounded by an arsenal at home.
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Old 01-28-2019, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Simple question.
Not really.
How much of the societal infrastructure did you use to make this money?
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Old 01-28-2019, 10:03 AM
 
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I'm a person, how about you? Do you have a MASTER that will own everything you do?

Was there something I said, that you disagree with?
Seems you would have pointed it out.


It is the entire reason for the 2nd Amendment and armed while in public and surrounded by an arsenal at home.
I do not debate sovereign citizen arguments. It's like arguing with someone who thinks 2+2 = 5.
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