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There's an explicit contract posting on City Data, you checked the box saying "I agree to abide by the Terms Of Service of City-Data"
Where's the check box for living in the US. And don't give me renunciation, renouncing citizenship for tax avoidance is grounds for summary refusal. You apply to renounce, it can be refused, for any number if reasons logical and surreal.
I would go all the way in on this...
Renunciation can be construed as recognizing your citizenship in the first place. I shouldn't (morally & logically) renounce something I never agreed to in the first place.
While I'm downtown at the State's ornate building filling out its paperwork "officially" renouncing my citizenship I might as well renounce Satan, Santa Claus, and my allegiance to the Queen of England while I'm in the renouncing mood. It makes the same amount of sense when you look at it.
The definition of consent can't change/bend for any individual or entity because it ceases to become consent at that point.
I am confuse by the above statement^^ explain? And for clarification I know what a RMD is.
Then you know that the taxes on a RMD come due on withdrawal. If you have been lucky and have a substantial pile in your IRA, the taxes will be substantial, unless you were wise enough to have it all in a ROTH IRA. I wasn't .
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Maybe we should have two tiers of citizens.
Those who don't want to pay taxes - they won't be able to drive on any publicly funded roads, can't use police or fire trucks, can't send their kids to public schools, can't use any parks or park services, and won't receive any social security or medicare benefits ever.
I'm not sure how you'll get around, without using anything that belongs to the public, but let's assume you manage that.
Maybe it will work out. Maybe your savings from taxes will pay for you and a few others to buy up private property to build your own private roads, maybe you can hire private fire/police as some who are very very wealthy do.
But then, you'd be right back where you started, I guess. You'll be paying for the services you use or might use.
Those who don't want to pay taxes - they won't be able to drive on any publicly funded roads, can't use police or fire trucks, can't send their kids to public schools, can't use any parks or park services, and won't receive any social security or medicare benefits ever.
I'm not sure how you'll get around, without using anything that belongs to the public, but let's assume you manage that.
Maybe it will work out. Maybe your savings from taxes will pay for you and a few others to buy up private property to build your own private roads, maybe you can hire private fire/police as some who are very very wealthy do.
But then, you'd be right back where you started, I guess. You'll be paying for the services you use or might use.
Yes, I don't believe in preordained armed robbery in the hopes of preventing future armed robbery.
You consider taxes to be "preordained armed robbery"? Despite the fact that is written (in multiple places) in the Constitution that the collection of taxes is a fundamental duty of the government?
But I guess you reject the Constitution since you didn't personally agree to it.
The scary thing here is that everyone's vote counts the same.
You consider taxes to be "preordained armed robbery"? Despite the fact that is written (in multiple places) in the Constitution that the collection of taxes is a fundamental duty of the government?
But I guess you reject the Constitution since you didn't personally agree to it.
The scary thing here is that everyone's vote counts the same.
Depends on what tax.
Income tax is robbery. Even it’s in the constitution, it’s still immoral.
I pay taxes the same way I'd pay the mafia if they came to my door demanding payment for their protection, or a mugger that flashes the gun in their belt and asks for my wallet.
The thing is, I would definitely pay for some of the things taxes currently pay for. I just advocate that the same rules apply to the government that apply to anyone else...you can't just force your services on people and send them a bill.
Are you people like willfully ignoring the fundamental purpose of government in society? I mean it's laid out pretty clearly in the opening sentences of the Constitution, not to mention the founding documents of just about every other country.
This idea that if you don't personally benefit and approve, then it is unjust, is incredibly shortsighted. Civilization as we know it would not exist if that were how a majority of people behaved.
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