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Obama was the king of Executive Orders and declaring national emergencies. 12 times he did it. Something happening in Yemen is a national emergency? lol
Your math is cause to LOL...
Trump's 95 executive orders in two years compared to Obama's 276 over eight years puts Trump well on course to be king of EOs as well, if he maintains office as long as Obama did. Sure hope not...
TRUMP: “You know, we already have national emergencies out there. You know, President Obama, President Clinton, President Bush — they’ve declared many national — this is not unique. They’ve declared many national emergencies. Many, many.” — remarks at a Cabinet meeting Tuesday.
THE FACTS: The emergency action would be rare. The presidents he cites did not use emergency powers to pay for projects that Congress wouldn’t support.
Emergency declarations by Obama, Bush and Clinton were overwhelmingly for the purpose of addressing crises that emerged abroad. Many blocked foreign interests or terrorist-linked entities from access to funds. Some prohibited certain imports from or investments to countries associated with human rights abuses.
One of the basic ideas of the Constitution is that (1) Presidents don't make the laws, and (2) certain powers - including Power of the Purse - are reserved for the Congress.
With this "national emergency," you conservatives support your guy just bypassing Congress altogether and implementing his policies (which he couldn't get support through Congress) via royal decree.
That's basically called a dictatorship. Might as well disband Congress and just annoint Donald as King.
If you're for this stuff, then you're opposed to the spirit and concept of the Constitution.
I agree......
did you say the same about Obama, when he went around congress, and the constitution multiple times?????... or are you just trolling for the fascist liberals???
I think the numerous heroin epidemics are a very serious national emergency, in that I agree with Trump, the majority is coming from Mexico, where it is grown, processed and packaged.
Trump's 95 executive orders in two years compared to Obama's 276 over eight years puts Trump well on course to be king of EOs as well, if he maintains office as long as Obama did. Sure hope not...
hows that closing Gitmo EO Obama signed his first day in office working out?
did you say the same about Obama, when he went around congress, and the constitution multiple times?????... or are you just trolling for the fascist liberals???
You "what about Obama" folks sure do love pointing in other directions, backwards, but truth be told...
We all watch from our arm chairs what any POTUS might do, and to be expected they test the waters of constitutionality when addressing issues of concern. Any good American ought to be concerned when a POTUS crosses the line of what is legal, regardless our political ideologies, but mostly we just wait and see if our leaders are found to be within the law or not. Many times I don't think they even know until whatever they're doing is vetted through our court system. Not sure anyway, despite the best of their legal counsel.
We have Obama's record/history clear for anyone to review. How many times Obama's EOs and/or national emergencies were overturned. What was found to be constitutional and/or legal in the end, or not.
Now, today, we have the question of whether Trump is acting within the law, regardless Obama's record!
Pull your head out of the Obama this and Hillary that sand and focus!
Trump's 95 executive orders in two years compared to Obama's 276 over eight years puts Trump well on course to be king of EOs as well, if he maintains office as long as Obama did. Sure hope not...
that tittle goes to Reagan, Clinton, and the one with the most in the least years...Carter
trump 2 years......85 Obama 8 years.....275
wbush 8 years.....290
Clinton 8 years....363
bush sr 4 years.....165
Reagan 8 years... 380
carter 4 years .... 319
carter had more in 4 years than Obama, or wbush had in 8 years
We have two clear "national emergencies" today; 1) Trump and 2) Confirmation bias.
Reading through the same old tired comments in this thread, it's amazing to see the time and effort devoted to making arguments to nowhere, as if ANYONE is going to change their mind about Trump's damn wall. If you are for Trump and his wall, everything about promoting Trump and his wall is good, okay, no matter much else. If you are not for Trump or Trump's wall, everything related to Trump and his wall is bad, not okay, no matter much else.
If that ain't confirmation bias at its worst, I don't know what is, and if ANYONE can argue otherwise, I'd sure like to know what that argument might be!
We all come to these topics from various perspectives. Some are "team blue," "team red" ... others to support Trump, others to decry him ... some are concerned how illegal immigration's impacted them personally or the overall country, others maybe see only the dog whistle politics. Your perspective is to look for confirmation bias, and no doubt that can be found in abundance. But in that finding I'm sure you're aware of the danger that you also may fall victim.
The definition: the tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of one's existing beliefs or theories.
What makes you think that anyone believes their arguments would change someone's mind about "Trump's damn wall" even if it is a damn wall? That would be a foolish waste of time and effort. Not much evidence on these thread that's occurring.
Perhaps many spend time on these forums for reasons that do not differ in some essential way from your own. I've not read through your thread why we believe as we do. There's probably some pretty good stuff in there so maybe I should find it. My guess is that's the question of essential interest to you - belief. And so you analyze posts from the perspective that they primarily reflect belief. Some no doubt do, others maybe not.
hows that closing Gitmo EO Obama signed his first day in office working out?
About as well as forever changing the subject is working out for you...
Now back to the topic of this thread perhaps?
Or if you prefer to learn a little more about what Obama did or did not do and why, sure seems there's always much you can do along those lines too!
"Guantánamo, which has held as many as seven hundred and seventy-nine prisoners, now houses just seventy-six. But it remains open, at a cost of $445 million last year—an expensive reminder that the United States, contrary to the ideals of its judicial system, is willing to hold people captive, perhaps for life, without a trial. For Obama, it is also painful evidence of the difference between the campaign promises of a forty-six-year-old aspirant and the realities of governing in a bitterly polarized time. Last March, when he made an appearance in Cleveland, Ohio, a seventh grader asked what advice he would give himself if he could go back to the start of his Presidency. Obama said, “I think I would have closed Guantánamo on the first day.” But the politics had got tough, he said, and “the path of least resistance was just to leave it open.”
Seems Obama might have been more right than wrong about Gitmo too, but of course Obama knew he wasn't king. Trump and his supporters seem confused about what that means too...
If you support "national emergency" to bypass Congress, you are an enemy of the Constitution
If you believe that, then you are ignorant of The Constitution.
Article II Section I defines The President as the "singular executive". That means he alone is responsible and must insure that all laws are enforced. Not Congress, not Judicial Branch.
Congress passed the immigration laws.
But Trump - like Presidents before him - does not have the tools necessary to enforce the laws he is required to enforce. All other Presidents have been remiss in their duty since they ignored laws that they were required to enforce.
Trump would be remiss in his duties if he did not declare an emergency and cause The Wall to be built.
If Congress wants laws to be followed they should pass them; if they want laws removed they should remove them. No one has the right to complain when laws are enforced.
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