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Old 03-01-2019, 02:03 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Originally Posted by Julian658 View Post
Men with mistresses lie. OMG! This guy is just as bad as Bill Clinton. Who cares!

And Bill Clinton was impeached for it by "family values" Republicans.

 
Old 03-01-2019, 03:15 PM
 
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Originally Posted by loves2read View Post
Yes I would—
We all should
A MISTAKE is one level of wrongdoing
What Trump/Cohen and others like John Edwards have done is more than a mistake
It is not just an almost accidental omission or miscalculation or untimely acknowledgement

What those guys did was a deliberate attempt to subvert the laws—
That is way more than a mistake

Just as I said about Jussie Smollett’s self-directed victimization attempt
A mistake is NOT deliberate—
That is a misnomer because people caught are trying to minimize the damage/culpability/blowback of their choice—-deliberate choice—-
They want people to believe it was inadvertent—
None of what Trump did was—not labeling the payoff money to the two women accurately and timely was not a mistake—it was a strategy to minimize damage to Trump during the campaign—-
And it was also standard operating practice for Trump over the years—
This was NOT NEW behavior—
That’s why it can’t simply be “a mistake”—-

Just like the lies to cover up granting Jared Kushner a security clearance NOT authorized by rules/policies others are required to follow and be judged by...thwarting and ignoring all the voices of knowledgeable authorities pointing out Kushner was not qualified or deserving of that security ranking...
Trump did not pay any attention to that warning
What other warnings do you think he is likely to ignore when it doesn’t suit him or agree with his preconceived notions...like Kim not knowing about Warmbier’s torture

Trump wants “no rules” for him and his cabal—
NO RULES—because that way he can’t violate any of them
Why do you think he bragged on the Access Hollywood tape about being able to assault women —
Because he doesn’t believe in RULES for HIM....of any kind on any level—
Why cheap construction workers out of their pay—because he can
Why over or under inflate the value of his properties against the law—because he can and he likes to cheat authorities—it makes him feel powerful and in control...
Malignant narcissists never follow rules because they see themselves as above the rules/laws...

So this is the man 80K voters in 3 significant states forced on the American people via the Electoral College—
Likely because of Russian assistance in targeting propaganda info on-line...

How many of you would allow your children to get away with ignoring YOUR rules?
How many of you like it when people jump the line when there is a queue?
How many of you respect an NFL/NBA/MLB official who makes “mistakes” and ignores rules?
How many of you want coaches to be unfair to your child about playing time?
Or colleges to not apply admission policies equitably?

In all honesty no one wants to see people get away with taking advantage of special privilege—
Yet this president does it all the time—in full view at times and in secrecy at others—and then lies about that!

Trump supporters—if you want any kind of credibility about supporting this man, you have got to stop with the blind acceptance of his wrong doing...especially the acts that you wouldn’t accept if your child, your spouse, or anyone else in your personal circle did similar acts, told similar lies, behaved like rules are for other people...
You are driving yourselves closer and closer to a personal cliff you may not escape if you don’t admit the truth
There are a few that supports ideas over parties but very few. It's great when you see someone actually do that. Kinda like spotting an albino squirrel in the park.
 
Old 03-01-2019, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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So I would like to see Hannity testify under oath regarding his claim. Surely Hannity can't be mistaken about the dozen of times Cohen claimed that Cohen on his own initiative got a line of credit to pay off a porn star.
 
Old 03-01-2019, 04:43 PM
 
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Spending one's money on a mistress is not a crime.

it wouldn't have been if trump had paid daniels and mcdougal directly from his personal account ( and he'd reported it). but..... he didn't, and instead contributed to violating multiple campaign finance laws at a felony level.

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Old 03-01-2019, 04:56 PM
 
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And the most insane misuse of power ever - President Clinton ....

gave lewinski a cigar and a stained dress, not a security clearance. i consider the later a greater misuse of power.
 
Old 03-01-2019, 05:02 PM
 
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How is this a felony?

both cohen and pecker's hush-money payments equate to campaign donations exceeding limits at a felony level ( as well as the fact that it was unreported and measures were taken to conceal these payments). trump's knowledge and participation link him to those felonies thru conspiracy.
 
Old 03-01-2019, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Exactly! Democrats are more appalled by paying off a mistress who participated in a consensual relationship (Trump) than the payoff to a sexual assault victim to drop her lawsuit (Clinton).
***Cough, Katie Johnson, Cough**
 
Old 03-01-2019, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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It's not that he paid a mistress, it's that that this payment violated campaign finance law. It is a crime.

Which is why Trump lies about it.
DING DING DING, we have a winner!
 
Old 03-01-2019, 05:22 PM
 
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We already have Guiliani, on camera, stating Trump paid for it with his own money.

We already have Trump, ON TAPE, discussing the payment, with Cohen.

We have proof that Trump reimbursed Cohen for the payments.

plus cohen provided two checks, the first from trump's personal account after he took office and the second from his trust, which trump's not supposed to have any control over ( the check was signed by weisselberg and donnie j. jr, bringing both those two into this trainwreck ).
 
Old 03-01-2019, 05:26 PM
 
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plus cohen provided two checks, the first from trump's personal account after he took office and the second from his trust, which trump's not supposed to have any control over ( the check was signed by weisselberg and donnie j. jr, bringing both those two into this trainwreck ).
This entire administration is a train wreck. They would be even more dangerous if they were not as bumbling and stupid as The Keystone Cops...lucky for us.
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