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Old 01-20-2020, 12:02 PM
 
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bizarre argument that this is the "will of the people" for a man that lost the popular vote by 3million.
Well, yes. But no more bizarre than the rest of team Trump's arguments, most of which are pointless irrelevances and outright lies.

 
Old 01-20-2020, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Obstruction of Congress is not even a crime. Its a made-up term used to fool people like you into thinking it was Obstruction of Justice, which is a crime.

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Obstruction of Congress is a term used throughout history. Used in both Nixon and Clinton.

It has been used in cases where subpoenas are ignored. Even against Holder
 
Old 01-20-2020, 07:59 PM
 
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As to the argument that Obama, or Jefferson, or Bush or any POTUS got away with things so Trump should be allowed to as well, is a ridiculous.

Just because some get away with murder, should everyone be allowed to do so?
Only if they are Republican Demi-gods...
 
Old 01-20-2020, 08:04 PM
 
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Obstruction of Congress is a term used throughout history. Used in both Nixon and Clinton.

It has been used in cases where subpoenas are ignored. Even against Holder
Rachel Maddow’s show tonight had brief reference to Dr. Fiona Hill the top Russian advisor to WH, the guy who replaced her and lasted 3 mo before resigning day he gave his testimony behind closed doors to the Hourse Committee, then the guy who replaced him — he lasted 4 months and was marched out of the WH today under escort—supposedly is under investigation for security irregularity...
So three top Russian advisors — two testified against Trump’s behavior to House Committee and are no longer there....the one brought in most recently was supposed to go w/Trump to Davos and instead is now out due to alleged security impropriety....
So was that just to make sure Trump has NO Russian advisor listening to any interchange w/Putin or because they caught him talking to someone about Trump’s actions???

Who knows but we will sooner or later and it won’t shine a positive light on Trump or his WH agenda...

This guy is 1-nuts, 2-incompetent, 3-in thrall to Putin, 4–dangerous because of 1, 2 and 3...
 
Old 01-20-2020, 08:30 PM
 
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Trump's team is making the argument that because he was elected he can't be impeached or removed no matter what he does as this would subvert the people's will.

Which means that no President could every be held to account by impeachment.

This is a lie.

The Constitution is quite clear on that Presidents, all of whom presumably are elected, can be impeached.
Trump’s team are just as unhinged as he is...
The evangelicals like Sekulow want him in there to trigger the Rapture/Second Coming and before that to replace every judge he can with anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti-women judges
The others like Tensing and her husband are just hacks that want connection to power
Dershowitz I have been told is huge Israel supporter and wants Trump to do all he can to help the alt-right powers in Israel

So everyone has an agenda that doesn’t take into account the “people’s will” in the sense of preserving Constitutional powers of 3 arms of government—which is really to protect the PEOPLE—
 
Old 01-21-2020, 04:17 AM
 
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Team Trump's argument boils down to the Constitution is unconstitutional.

Crazy.
 
Old 01-21-2020, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Well Trump's attorney has not defended him. He just spread some lies.
 
Old 01-21-2020, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Well Trump's attorney has not defended him. He just spread some lies.
things not going well for the Dems? Unfair?
 
Old 01-21-2020, 03:39 PM
 
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Well Trump's attorney has not defended him. He just spread some lies.
In addition to lies, Sekulow also referenced bogus conspiracy theories.

It was all rather weird.
 
Old 01-21-2020, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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In addition to lies, Sekulow also referenced bogus conspiracy theories.

It was all rather weird.
Trump has nothing to stand on. He is guilty as charged.

Trump's attorney's know it. Even Allen D. cannot find a black glove in this trial.
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