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Old 01-30-2020, 09:57 AM
 
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Originally Posted by AksarbeN View Post
As of 1/27/2020 16,240 lies, but who's counting?


Just remember he's the republicans president reflecting on THEM and who they are!
Trump is who Republicans are. Perhaps a little rougher around the edges, but since Lee Atwater and Pat Buchanan, their M.O. has been to insult and lie.

Trump isn't some recent oddity. This is what Republicans have been doing for five decades. It's how they convince people to vote for them.

Gullibles would have been a better term for those who vote for them.

 
Old 01-30-2020, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Wow Trump's WH lawyer screwed the pooch. Claiming it is ok to get and seek assistance from a foreign nation.

It is a felony.
 
Old 01-30-2020, 07:08 PM
 
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Read Heather Cox Richardson blog this morning on how we got to this place in politics.

Leading up to the 1970 midterms, it became clear that Nixon needed a "Hail Mary" plan to rally voters around this beleaguered President.

So Pat Buchanan and Lee Atwater came up with a plan to lie and accuse Democrats of being lazy, dangerous, and anti-American.

This demonization of Democrats became standard Republican practice. By 1990, under Newt Gingrich's direction, documents were distributed to Republicans urging them to refer to Democrats as “corrupt,” “cheat” “disgrace,” “endanger,” “failure,” hypocrisy,” “intolerant,” “liberal,” “lie,” “pathetic,” “sick,” “steal,” “traitors,” “waste,” “welfare,” and—ironically, considering the Republicans current stand—“abuse of power.”

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com

The insults and lies didn't spring up with Trump and Trump supporters. They've been the go-to moves of Republicans for the past fifty years.

The "swift boating" of Kerry, spreading lies that he was a cowards for patrolling the delta rescuing downed American pilots. Lies about Obama (read recently that a third of Republicans still believe he was born in Kenya). The lies about Clinton ordering assassinations and running pedophile rings out of nonexistent pizza parlor basements. ...

Insults and lies didn't start with Trump. He just made it socially acceptable for Republicans to do it openly.

Those who value truth, and the rule of law are appalled by what is happening on the floor of the Senate. Sekulow, Cipollone, and Dershowitz are openly lying on the floor of the Senate. Republicans are nodding in agreement.

Friday there will be a vote on whether to have witnesses and conduct an actual trial.

Or wrap this things up with an acquittal.

We've been headed here for five decades.
Point of fact—
Lee Atwater was partners with Paul Manafort and Roger Stone in a “consulting firm” after college...
They were all involved in running Young Republicans in college and graduated to dirty tricks while doing work for Reagan’s presidential terms and helping to make inroads in corrupt political regimes in 3rd world countries....
How Manafort got his toe-hold cleaning up dictators to get “American aid”...

These people have earned a special ring in Dante’s Inferno...
 
Old 01-30-2020, 07:12 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Boss View Post
Wow Trump's WH lawyer screwed the pooch. Claiming it is ok to get and seek assistance from a foreign nation.

It is a felony.
I don’t understand how Roberts can sit there and listen to so many attorneys lie about facts that are KNOWN to be facts—not opinions or interpretations of the law—
Just flat out lie about known facts
That to me should mean they get disbarred for deliberate misrepresentation of factual information...

But I guess he has been hanging around with Thomas and Alito and Scalia long enough that he is ennured to lopsided interpretations of truth...
 
Old 01-30-2020, 07:16 PM
 
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Trump is who Republicans are. Perhaps a little rougher around the edges, but since Lee Atwater and Pat Buchanan, their M.O. has been to insult and lie.

Trump isn't some recent oddity. This is what Republicans have been doing for five decades. It's how they convince people to vote for them.

Gullibles would have been a better term for those who vote for them.
Don’t forget Dick Cheney and others of his ilk—-
Look at anyone in Nixon’s Cabinet
Look at anyone in Trump’s
Just flat out crooks, manipulators and propagandists, cheats and gorging on the public teat...
 
Old 01-31-2020, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Sen. Alexander says Trump is guilty as charged. Dems. proved Trump lied and cheated.

Then goes out and says it was an inappropriate act not worthy of removal.
 
Old 01-31-2020, 07:56 AM
 
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Sen. Alexander says Trump is guilty as charged. Dems. proved Trump lied and cheated.

Then goes out and says it was an inappropriate act not worthy of removal.
But Alexander’s comment isn’t worth a plugged nickel in the greater scheme of justice since it’s just words—not actions...
Voting FOR WITNESSES against the GOP’s desire to keep quiet would have been a meaningful response...
Trump has plenty of words——and proves how he devalues their importance with every comment he makes
Alexander didn’t do anything but salve his conscience
And for a man who isn’t running for re-election it was a very poor final moment on the stage...
 
Old 01-31-2020, 01:24 PM
 
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Another whistleblower exposes Trump and/or Pence.

Senate investigators interview IRS whistleblower about alleged interference with Trump or Pence audit

Quote:
The whistleblower, a career IRS employee, has alleged that at least one political appointee at the Treasury Department may have tried interfering with the audit of President Trump or Vice President Pence. Democratic lawmakers have stressed the importance of thoroughly investigating the complaint, while Trump administration officials have downplayed its seriousness and said it is based on hearsay.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...ge%2Fstory-ans
 
Old 01-31-2020, 01:34 PM
 
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Originally Posted by KayAnn246 View Post
Another whistleblower exposes Trump and/or Pence.

Senate investigators interview IRS whistleblower about alleged interference with Trump or Pence audit


https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...ge%2Fstory-ans
Since Trump and his handmaiden Barr persist in keeping primary sources from testifying everything is hearsay...
 
Old 01-31-2020, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Originally Posted by loves2read View Post
But Alexander’s comment isn’t worth a plugged nickel in the greater scheme of justice since it’s just words—not actions...
Voting FOR WITNESSES against the GOP’s desire to keep quiet would have been a meaningful response...
Trump has plenty of words——and proves how he devalues their importance with every comment he makes
Alexander didn’t do anything but salve his conscience
And for a man who isn’t running for re-election it was a very poor final moment on the stage...
Yes he showed how weak a man he really is.
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