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Old 03-14-2019, 02:30 PM
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moving the goal post? now the crime is "lying" about a non-crime......that's all, right? LMAO!!!
If we criminalize politicians for lying about a non-crime, we wouldn't have a government.
Moving the goal post, I think not.

Collusion is not a crime also collusion isn't the the basis for Muller's investigation. It's Russian interference and all that come along with it. Someone, as usual is making a play on words to discredit the investigation by constantly using the word collusion. We have some real smart people on both sides of this investigation. Occasionally you hear (D) use collusion and they'd have to be corrected, some of the smarter ones say the investigation into Russian interference meanwhile on the (R) side they always use collusion and rarely if ever use investigation into Russian interference. Now why is that? The folks on (R) side of the investigation are not dumb they are very slick and careful with their words.

 
Old 03-14-2019, 02:54 PM
 
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Moving the goal post, I think not.

Collusion is not a crime also collusion isn't the the basis for Muller's investigation. It's Russian interference and all that come along with it. Someone, as usual is making a play on words to discredit the investigation by constantly using the word collusion. We have some real smart people on both sides of this investigation. Occasionally you hear (D) use collusion and they'd have to be corrected, some of the smarter ones say the investigation into Russian interference meanwhile on the (R) side they always use collusion and rarely if ever use investigation into Russian interference. Now why is that? The folks on (R) side of the investigation are not dumb they are very slick and careful with their words.



That is not the reasons Rod Rosenstein use in his letter to appoint Mueller as the Special Prosecutor.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...el-Russia.html



he used: any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump campaign.

This was based on the testimony given by Comey to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence before he was fired.

so what exactly is the crime they are investigating?
 
Old 03-14-2019, 02:56 PM
 
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Let's see what comes out Mueller's investigation shall we? Anything that points to conspiracy by Trump to work with a foreign national to influence the election, or with the knowledge of Trump that this was going on, would be bad news for Trump. It's hard to see how Trump would avoid impeachment.
 
Old 03-14-2019, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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One reason would be it's NOT A CRIME!
Weakest excuse so far. It's not a crime the way shooting someone or giving money to someone is not a crime. It's an action that might violate law depending on the circumstances.
 
Old 03-14-2019, 02:59 PM
 
Location: USA
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That's not what the anti-Trump crowd has been saying for the past two years.
Yep, and many of the Posters in this thread have been sounding just like Maxine Waters even before Bueller
 
Old 03-14-2019, 03:05 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Let's see what comes out Mueller's investigation shall we? Anything that points to conspiracy by Trump to work with a foreign national to influence the election, or with the knowledge of Trump that this was going on, would be bad news for Trump. It's hard to see how Trump would avoid impeachment.
He may be impeached by the House but he'd be acquitted by the Senate. If the Dems go down that route, it could help Trump's reelection chances because it would energize his base like nothing else would.

The best strategy for the Dems is to use the findings of the Mueller report (considering it implicates Trump in a crime) and the GOP's refusal to hold Trump accountable for anything against them in 2020.
 
Old 03-14-2019, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Oh, LISTEN to the horsepooky!
It's the Republicans fault; they never would have voted him out...
It's just not worth it...
There woulda been a civil war...
There are too many reasons to list....

THOSE are reasons to forego impeachment - an act The Dems have been screaming about since Jan 21, 2017?! There is NO REASON to not impeach someone if a case can be made. The fact is, there never was a case - none at all - and The Dems are finally coming clean now that their hysterical rantings have attracted political dingbats and space cadets.
The leadership attracted the wrong crowd and now they have to live with them. Nice move, Dems.
Pubs and their Trumpling masters are shrinking as the crimes surrounding this corrupt admin are being exposed, tried and punished.

This ballgame is only in the 6th inning.

Stay tuned for the exciting conclusion.

 
Old 03-14-2019, 03:13 PM
 
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He may be impeached by the House but he'd be acquitted by the Senate. If the Dems go down that route, it could help Trump's reelection chances because it would energize his base like nothing else would.

The best strategy for the Dems is to use the findings of the Mueller report (considering it implicates Trump in a crime) and the GOP's refusal to hold Trump accountable for anything against them in 2020.
Assuming the Senate still believes in the Constitution and the rule of law, why do you feel Trump would be acquitted if the Mueller Special Investigation shows that Trump conspired with, or had knowledge of, a foreign national influencing our national election?
 
Old 03-14-2019, 03:17 PM
 
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One reason would be it's NOT A CRIME!
And secondly there was no collusion.
 
Old 03-14-2019, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Why would you NOT impeach Trump?! After months of accusing Trump of being a liar who stole the election with the help of the Russians, and accusing him of being an unfit philanderer who faked his wealth so that he could further his position, the Dems now announce that they will not be impeaching him.
WHY!!??
Because it was all a scam, meant for the eyes and ears of the more gullible of the Dem ranks who are most likely to believe it, that's why. It was never true and the Democrat leadership knew it.
Your theory is a little naive and does not really work with reality, but if one does not watch or read news that portrays the Dems accurately--you would not know the real reason they are not talking impeachment. He can be indicted and not impeached, and think how that would work with Trump under indictment and running for re-election.

Actually, that is not why the Dems are currently not promoting impeachment. They will not give him cover and be fodder for rallies. He would not be able to cry at his rallies to be saved from the big bad Dems.

They remember the idiots in the GOP who went after Bill Clinton for a BJ. They helped re-elect him. The Dems do not need to impeach Trump. They want to defeat him in 2020. That will be much more effective than going after him now. It would be a majority and a mandate for the Dems if he is beat at the voting booth.

If he is re-elected--impeach him later. I don't think he will be re-elected. The taint of what comes out of the investigations will paint him as a corrupt businessman--which he is and has been--and that is going to really drag him down during the election.

Let him sink of his own weight--which is increasing with each bucket of KFC and big hamberders.

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