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I see this "do not like it, do not buy" argument all the time. However, that argument would have merit if not for the fact in many places, the government has mandated that only HOA developments can be built, so it is not the market, consumer, or anything driving the supply, it is the government. Many places the inventory of non-HOA homes is pretty low compared to HOA, due to the government mandate.
For those who live in good HOAs, it is great, but for those who do not, it can be a nightmare, plenty of stories online about not only the homeowner(s), but the entire neighborhood getting screwed.
Yes exactly. At some point being forced to buy into one because that is all that exists? Then there is a problem. It becomes a monopoly of sorts.
It doesn't matter to me if it's a "good" HOA, it is the principle of the matter. Basic town ordinances should be established but beyond that you are on your own, you really need a Big Brother to dictate rules while you pay a fee on top of taxes.
They fine you if you garage door is open too long. loll.
Yes exactly. At some point being forced to buy into one because that is all that exists? Then there is a problem. It becomes a monopoly of sorts.
It doesn't matter to me if it's a "good" HOA, it is the principle of the matter. Basic town ordinances should be established but beyond that you are on your own, you really need a Big Brother to dictate rules while you pay a fee on top of taxes.
They fine you if you garage door is open too long. loll.
It can be all that’s available because when a neighborhood was formed, the region was unincorporated, so creating an HOA was the only was to develop and maintain community resources. That’s why my HOA exists.
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Ours is pretty minimal and mostly oriented around things that can impact others. Anything that would change drainage of a lot so you don't flood a neighbor. Street parking restrictions. No short term rentals. Don't block sight lines on corner lots. That sort of stuff, just 12 basic rules and dues cover landscaping of front of lots.
HOA's..an association that sets particular rules/laws, and fee's ... so noeither socialist nor communist....
but you might be able to fit fascist (socialism lite)(a leftist ideology) in with it
HOA's also own and maintain common property. Roads, community building's, entrance signs, street lights, play grounds, some maintain sewer systems and clean water facilities.
I see them as a separate gov't for a small area which has rules and still must follow State, County, City laws.
It can be all that’s available because when a neighborhood was formed, the region was unincorporated, so creating an HOA was the only was to develop and maintain community resources. That’s why my HOA exists.
Nope, they are happening all over in perfectly functioning established towns.
HOA's also own and maintain common property. Roads, community building's, entrance signs, street lights, play grounds, some maintain sewer systems and clean water facilities.
I see them as a separate gov't for a small area which has rules and still must follow State, County, City laws.
More like a village.
Who needs more government?
HOAs are snooty fascists setups not quaint villages. I lived in a "village" with a little white church and everything. They would never tolerate some jackboot telling them what color flower pot they can use. But these were actual independent types who would help a neighbor without needing a list of rules or paying a fee.
Nope, they are happening all over in perfectly functioning established towns.
I was simply explaining how my HOA came to exist. There were no community resources when the neighborhood was built because this area was unincorporated. The region has since developed, but fifty years ago, the neighborhood was surrounded by fields and dirt roads. The developer wanted pools, playgrounds, and tennis courts to appeal to buyers, so they initiated the formation of an HOA. Certainly that’s not the case everywhere, as you pointed out, but that’s how it happened here.
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