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View Poll Results: Are HOA's communist or socialist or both?
communist 15 75.00%
socialist 9 45.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 20. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-15-2019, 04:15 PM
 
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As someone who sits on an HOA, you can make whatever rules you want, but how are you going to enforce them?


You can make dumb ass thinks like your garage door rule, but the law (in Texas) states that with any warnings/violations the violator has 10 days to remediate the situation. So you have 10 days to make sure that garage door is closed.


I get the spirit of some of these things, but enforcement is impossible. Our neighborhood one is fireworks. County allows them, HOA doesn't. Sherriff doesn't enforce HOA bylaws, and you pop fireworks, then you have 10 days to stop doing it once you receive notice from the HOA. Well duh, that's never an issue anyways. Really you just need to have agreed standards of behavior and try not to have people be *******s.
It depends on the deed restrictions. Some can fine, some can't. They can still sell your house for non payment of their fees. And then make you pay the attorney fees. Takes longer since Champions HOA in Houston threw an old woman out on the street. She got a lawyer and got her house back.

It took 2 legislative sessions to change the laws.

Every HOA is different and they are set up for different things. Some to take care of the common grounds, parks pools, etc. Some to pick up the trash. Imagine 25 different trash haulers in your neighborhood.
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:19 PM
 
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As someone who sits on an HOA, you can make whatever rules you want, but how are you going to enforce them?

You can make dumb ass thinks like your garage door rule, but the law (in Texas) states that with any warnings/violations the violator has 10 days to remediate the situation. So you have 10 days to make sure that garage door is closed.

I get the spirit of some of these things, but enforcement is impossible. Our neighborhood one is fireworks. County allows them, HOA doesn't. Sherriff doesn't enforce HOA bylaws, and you pop fireworks, then you have 10 days to stop doing it once you receive notice from the HOA. Well duh, that's never an issue anyways. Really you just need to have agreed standards of behavior and try not to have people be *******s.
That is not true. Every homeowner is accountable to the community bylaws. If the HOA board adopts a fine policy, then fines can be levied. If the fined amounts (or annual HOA dues) are not promptly paid - in Texas - then the HOA has the legal authority under the law to file a lien on the homeowners house.
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:22 PM
 
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I will never, NEVER, own an HOA home.


Why didn't you add DICTATORSHIP as a choice? This is what they are, after all.



From a president of an HOA? PLEASE




I'll paint my home the color I choose, not you. I will build additions, to code, as I see fit - not you. I will not pay for an HOA to determine what I can and cannot do to MY PROPERTY.
Nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy in a HOA subdivision.

In Texas counties cannot make ordinances. Harris county Texas, if incorporated would be the 5th largest city in the USA. Each subdivision has to tend to all their needs themselves There is no government to provide the water and sewer. Or to say no fireworks. And every fireworks holiday, somebody has their house set on fire. The county doesn't have the money to put in streets and drainage. The developer has to do that.
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I am waiting for a guy to paint a MAGA hat on his house just to start a fight with the "Liberal, Left, Socialist, Communist, Fascist, Stalinist, Leninist, Hugo Chavez, Castro derived) HOA. Tick Tick Tick......
The MAGA crowd talks big, but I doubt that any of the homeowners among them would ever devalue and deface their own homes and neighborhoods in order to proclaim their adoration for their false idol.
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:33 PM
 
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The MAGA crowd talks big, but I doubt that any of the homeowners among them would ever devalue and deface their own homes and neighborhoods in order to proclaim their adoration for their false idol.
The one thing that both certain rightists and leftists would do is to put a campaign sign in their front yard in a community where no signs are allowed. Just to stir the pot. You know that they would.
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:34 PM
 
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That is not true. Every homeowner is accountable to the community bylaws. If the HOA board adopts a fine policy, then fines can be levied. If the fined amounts (or annual HOA dues) are not promptly paid - in Texas - then the HOA has the legal authority under the law to file a lien on the homeowners house.
Ability to fine must be in the governing documents. Our top fine amount seems small to some since the amount was determined over 30 years ago, but it can't be changed w/o at least 51% approval.
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:36 PM
 
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Ability to fine must be in the governing documents. Our top fine amount seems small to some since the amount was determined over 30 years ago, but it can't be changed w/o at least 51% approval.
51% approval of the board.
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Who needs more government?

HOAs are snooty fascists setups not quaint villages. I lived in a "village" with a little white church and everything. They would never tolerate some jackboot telling them what color flower pot they can use. But these were actual independent types who would help a neighbor without needing a list of rules or paying a fee.


It is what it is. You are not forced to live in a community with an HOA, it is by choice.
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:44 PM
 
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51% approval of the board.
Nope. 51% of owners to change a by-law. More to change anything in the declaration. The board has made some 'resolutions' in the past that are actually by-law changes which I pitched a fit over until I read that most of what I care about is in the declaration and those particular items require 100% approval.
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:47 PM
 
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The one thing that both certain rightists and leftists would do is to put a campaign sign in their front yard in a community where no signs are allowed. Just to stir the pot. You know that they would.
During the Kuwait war, a woman in Ladue Mo had an anti war sign in her window. They took her to court. There are some things the city or HOA says you cannot do, but the courts have ruled against them. In Texas, you can have religious holiday stuff, political signs, solar panels and satellite dishes.
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