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Gun Control vs Gun Rights. A battle since America's Founding, perhaps, but one that really took off since the late '60s to become what it is today.
On one extreme, will Gun Control advocates come to believe their efforts only seem to strengthen the opposition and just "give up?" Might they determine their endeavors to control guns are better spent elsewhere to reduce violence?
On the other extreme, will Gun Rights enthusiasts find their efforts thwarted even more by politicians influenced by a population frustrated by their perception of gun violence? Might their Rights be whittled down till there are nearly none left?
Perhaps divisions between gun-friendly vs gun-free states will become even more pronounced. I can hardly believe this battle will just continue to see-saw for the rest of our lives!
What might America's landscape regarding firearms look like in 20 years?
Well, if the gun-grabbers ramp up, the people will exercise their RKBA as intended by the Founders and restore the Republic by quashing the "rebellion" against the Foundation of Freedom, the RKBA.
Last time I asked that and said we needed much better access to mental health (and all healthcare) in the US, I was told that it was too expensive and wouldn't be effective.
So yes, if it does take a shooting where hundreds die for something other than "thoughts and prayers" to be put into motion, then I guess that's what it might take.
Until something actually changes, "another day, another shooting"
Here's a thought.
Everyone has a right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness right?
Would you advocate everyone exercise their right to keep and bear arms to defend those inalienable rights? Or do you advocate for a statist authoritarian approach in which only the police and military have?
Seems very, odd, that you're okay with people falling prey to heinous individuals so long as the end result is gun control.
That's disturbing.
You have to remember, 30 years ago the number of states allowing concealed carry were limited. Now all do-to some extent or another. 20 years ago, only one state recognized Constitutional Carry. Now I believe 14 do. Many states are passing laws preventing their LEOs from enforcing federal firearms laws (sanctuary states). While it's easy to see things in backwards, regressive states line NY and California getting publicity, the nore normal parts of the nation are actually recognizing civil rights.
Few other countries have such an obsession over firearms as the US does.
Of course, the US continues to fall in world rankings across the board - life expectancy, overall health, obesity, gun violence, education, etc. Our entire system continues to fail.
Only ones obsessed are the likes of you who go through life feeling, shilling degeneracy as normalcy, while calling for a more authoritarian and intrusive government.
You'd sound happier in the socialist utopia that is Venezuela.
No obesity there.
No firearms there.
Bless your heart. Can't wait until the next mass shooting for more of those Republican thoughts and prayers.
Maybe you all are praying to the wrong God(s)?
I think you have a problem worth seeing a shrink for, if you can't wait for another mass shooting to get gun laws...
You aren't helping your cause at all. You reveal just what we suspect you of. The ends justify the means, stand atop graves of the innocent focusing solely on the inanimate object used by the murderous scumbags who are compelled by Incentive Motive and Intent.
That and you prove projection. You accuse gun owners that which you are guilty of.
I myself would rather see people realize their full potential and not be victims to homicidal scumbags and put them down like the rabid animals they are. Nobody deserves to be a victim.
I would rather the homicidal not be so quick to commit wanton violence upon others. I'd rather they be the ones calling for gun control, with distrust in fellow citizens exercising their right to keep and bear arms.
That would entail revoking the homicidals incentives of a gun free zone.
Promoting self defense, rather than feeble lemming logic of gibz gunz and Moar government.
Please keep posting, as you further prove us correct in our assessment of your ideology.
Every "common sense" law proposed would have no affect on criminals. Part of being a criminal is that you don't care about laws. Put guards at schools to protect the students. Arm the teachers, some school districts did that several years ago, and have had no shootings. Enforce the current background check law. Over 80,000 people have been caught lying on the 4473 background check, a felony. Less than 1% of those have been prosecuted. Go back to confining the worst of the mentally ill. On almost every school shooting, either the school or the authorities have been warned beforehand and ignored it. The boy who did the Parkland shooting had 39 encounters with the police in the last two years before the shooting and it was ignored. The nightclub shooting in Orlando, a gun shop owner refused to sell a gun to the shooter and contacted the FBI. They ignored him. The recent Colorado shooting, a parent warned the school and was ignored. etc.
You guys don't want to do literally anything but arm everyone. No gun restrictions, no licencing that requires social and mental health check, hell no mental healthcare for people in general. You call them rabid animals -- well, maybe we shouldn't let them get to the point of being rabid animals that have guns in the first place.
I had this same argument after the batsh** crazy woman came to CO from FL a month back on a facebook group. I literally said, "What's it going to take for you guys to take this serious? Another shooting at one of our schools?" 2 weeks later, it happened, and the parent of the victim was a member of the facebook group.
We want people to be people not sheeple who are indoctrinated to believe they are incapable and must be solely reliant upon a reactionary measure of waiting upon law enforcement to arrive to handle a credible threat to life.
I promise once head lines read attempted or would be mass murderer stopped by school faculty, attendees in a house of worship or workplace, it will end. The heinous get their 15 minutes of infamy that politicians and pundits trip over themselves to give to them.
Gun free zones offer quite the incentive to be descended upon.
Knowing there's going to be a minutes long response by law enforcement.
It isn't Moar guns.
It's less lemming nonsense.
It's illegal and been illegal to commit murder. It takes will power to defend from a murderer. You'd rather have daddy .gov do that for you.
Perhaps it isn't the system that's failing. It's the individuals who believe they are owed or entitled to a socialized service, via forfeiting an essential liberty for a false sense of security. Between that and looking forward to more mass shootings... perhaps you should stop talking about it and start being about it. Go see a shrink.
It wont change. Same as abortion once all these new fad laws get struck down in court. Both sides tend to overplay their hands on these 2 issues to the point where they will not be able to effect actual real change at any point. Probably intentional because they are good wedge issues to rile up the respective bases. Solve them and then you have to find some other culturally divisive issues to take their place.
Same as it is now. This is due to the gun control people, the very vocal few actually, who want severe, basically unrealistic restrictions, and this just creates a scenario where nothing gets done.
If you look now, every single gun control advocacy amounts to "ban" in some form or another. Nothing will get done with such people. Their aim is not even gun control, it is to ban guns completely and you cannot reason with such people, they have effectively hijacked the gun control movement.
I predict non-gun owners are going to self-discover they never really knew how prevalent gun ownership actually is within their circle. They may be surprised to learn that their grocer, their realtor, their pastor, even their kids' teachers own firearms, as well as members of their own families.
In an effort to make gun ownership more widely known, better accepted, and "normalized," (rather than stigmatized,) I predict that gun owners will be more likely to open carry in the states that allow it.
Once non-gun owners see that firearm ownership is, in fact, not only very common but actually quite prominent among their everyday peers, some of the "us versus them" issues might diminish and progress can be made.
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