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I could certainly live in WV, as I love the beauty of Appalachia. I never much cared for Oklahoma though, too flat and treeless, and no way I could deal with the monster tornadoes.
Often times we have people who simply make things up and then we get pages of people arguing that false assessment.
WV isn't one of the "reddest" states. We elected Manchin and a (D) governor (he then changed parties and isn't very popular in that party right now either).
WV doesn't play politics like some other states do (very partisan). WV elected all (D)'s for decades when the (D)'s were supporting the working people. When they decided that Wall Street was more important it began to be mixed. With Hillary being a complete sell out to Wall Street, like others WV went with the unknown. Remember, Sanders beat Hillary in WV.
Quite simply, not even conservatives want to live in a red state.
Fun fact: Trump does NOT own one single real estate property in a red area.
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The libs are flooding "red" states like TN,NC, MT, WY, AZ, TX. The libs have already over-run and ruined CO- it used to be a nice state. FL is like NJ and NY South- try to find an actual Floridian anywhere but the panhandle anymore. I remember when people in FL actually had southern accents.
Libs move away from "unpleasant" areas. The thing they do not realize is that they are what makes those areas undesirable. You can never run away from you.
Good question. I live in Oklahoma and I'm currently getting very close to just quitting my job and packing what I can into my car and getting out. Life is too short to spend it in a place this miserable. The economy isn't bad right now nationally so I'm thinking about doing this while I can.
Do this yesterday. Find a job tho first. CO might be to your liking.
Trump has managed to turn around America in two short years, so excuses that Democrats used to run those states aren't going to cut it. But everyone knows that the redder the state, the better the state, and WV and OK are amongst the reddest of the red. So why aren't they booming off the charts like they should be?
For the same reason people are fleeing Illinois and Connecticut - they suck. People want to move where the living is good, such as Montana or Idaho, which are very red last time I checked.
2) There really isn't such a thing as a red-state or a blue-state. Chicago is one of the "bluest" cities in the country, but once you leave Chicago, the rest of Illinois is nearly-completely "red".
And likewise in the case of Austin, Texas, which is one of the most-liberal cities in the whole country, and is in an ostensibly "red-state".
3) It is the classic chicken or egg scenario. Red-states aren't poor because they're red. They're red because the industries the state depends sees greater benefit from the policies pushed by the Republican Party. A perfect example of that is West Virginia, whose economy depends heavily on the sale of energy(coal obviously but also natural-gas among other things).
The same pattern exists in blue-states as well. The New York City economy depends heavily on the financial-sector(IE Wall-Street). Washington D.C.'s economy is 100% taxes from the rest of the country plus lobbyists. Boston's economy is heavily-dependent on the five major universities in the area. Many healthcare providers and insurance companies are based in the Northeast. San Francisco depends on technology and an increasingly-larger alternative-energy sector. And Los Angeles depends on Hollywood, tourism, and foreign investment in real-estate.
4) If politics are almost-entirely about economics and industry, a state like Oklahoma wouldn't suddenly become richer or better-off if it voted blue. In fact, the democratic policies would significantly hurt the Oklahoma and West Virginian economies.
I was arguing with my cousin one time because he is a teacher here in Oklahoma, and he wants the state to vastly-expand its education-budget. But why would doubling the education-budget benefit Oklahoma? Its industries overwhelmingly don't require pretty much any education at all, and we're not going to become a financial or technological powerhouse, because not only are those industries already-established elsewhere, but the Federal government has been subsidizing those industries in those places since at least WWII, and from an efficiency point-of-view, keeping technology centralized in San Francisco makes a lot more sense than trying to artificially spread it out to Kansas, Wyoming, Oklahoma, etc.
Other than healthcare, meteorology, chemical-engineering, and geology, there are pretty much no jobs in the state that require a specialized-education. How would it benefit the state of Oklahoma to spend huge amounts of money educating people for jobs that only exist in California, Texas, or New York. We would basically be handing those states our money.
I've lived all over the country. I prefer Oklahoma. But my sister and her husband work for the Federal Government making huge amounts of money. She was working in Boulder with an aerospace-contractor, which was basically designing our "spy-satellites". And now she lives in Washington D.C. and her husband is somehow associated with the NSA, hacking/decrypting transmissions and other data. Between them they make like $300k+ a year. They want nothing to do with Oklahoma, because nothing like that exists here.
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How is my thread a total failure? I see posts all of the time where posters take a low performing blue state or city, compare it to a high performing red state, with the implication that red is better than blue. It doesn't mean that blue is necessarily better, but that which states are high performing isn't well correlated with political ideology.
I wouldn't want to live in West Virginia. That state is in really bad shape. Oklahoma, I could do given I'm paid enough, but I would be making trips to Texas or Colorado frequently.
Quite simply, not even conservatives want to live in a red state.
Fun fact: Trump does NOT own one single real estate property in a red area.
Yep. Even in Florida, his properties are in blue counties (Miami-Dade, Broward and West Palm).
No one wants to live in WV or OK, because they are the armpits of America.
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