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As someone that was born in Huntington Hospital, grew up in Altadena, and went to HS in Pasadena, that's actually just not true. The nicest areas of Pasadena (Linda Vista/San Rafael, Oak Knoll, or Chapman Woods) are ritzier than the nicest areas of Altadena or South Pas. The two cities that are actually as high end as those areas of Pasadena are San Marino and La Canada.
I'm somewhat familiar with these areas having grown up in SoCal...
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Used to be you could go to/from these places without spending all day in traffic, but unfortunately that problem has become very significant in the greater Los Angeles area and much the other more urban parts of California. Used to be I could drive HWY 39 to Huntington Beach from Hacienda Heights on any given weekend without a problem. Now, foghettaboutit...
Most of Northern California is better than most of Southern California in this regard.
Better in more than a few other regards too far as I'm concerned...
Only the three in TN from the second list or Huntsville, AL. I think I would fit in well with the politics and culture of much of Texas but nothing else about that state, such as the climate, topography, larger cities, etc. has ever appealed much to me for some reason.
I don't think I could live in a very liberal city. I live half an hour from the most liberal city in Michigan, Ann Arbor, and every time I'm there it's like I sense a strange, intangible, oppressive darkness and I can't wait to leave. Other people I know have expressed the same feeling, even some who consider themselves somewhat liberal.
Being surrounded by people whose gods are secular education, human wisdom with no thought of a Higher Power, condescension, and materialism is very depressing for me.
As someone that was born in Huntington Hospital, grew up in Altadena, and went to HS in Pasadena, that's actually just not true. The nicest areas of Pasadena (Linda Vista/San Rafael, Oak Knoll, or Chapman Woods) are ritzier than the nicest areas of Altadena or South Pas. The two cities that are actually as high end as those areas of Pasadena are San Marino and La Canada.
Uh, what did I say that wasn't true?
I didn't mention neighborhoods. I mentioned the entire cities (though Altadena is technically unincorporated). Pasadena has ghetto-ish parts and a history of some gang issues. Of course it still has great areas like the ones you mentioned. South Pas and Altadena don't have any bad areas at all.
I live in one of the reddest counties in Georgia. As soon as I save enough money to get my own home (or move to another state), I'm getting out. Meth use is high where I live. There have been several drug busts over the last 2 years. Too many Confederate flags flying (I HATE THE CONFEDERATE FLAG). I consider it a depressing place to live.
All the diversity includes the rich/poor divide like not seen in other places. People talk about diversity like it means something solid and positive, it does not. It's just a side note to whatever else is going on.
Only the three in TN from the second list or Huntsville, AL. I think I would fit in well with the politics and culture of much of Texas but nothing else about that state, such as the climate, topography, larger cities, etc. has ever appealed much to me for some reason.
I don't think I could live in a very liberal city. I live half an hour from the most liberal city in Michigan, Ann Arbor, and every time I'm there it's like I sense a strange, intangible, oppressive darkness and I can't wait to leave. Other people I know have expressed the same feeling, even some who consider themselves somewhat liberal.
Being surrounded by people whose gods are secular education, human wisdom with no thought of a Higher Power, condescension, and materialism is very depressing for me.
Always amazing to me to witness how different perspectives can so differently influence our sense about these sorts of things...
Reminds me a bit about how people can even hear music differently, depending on whether it's Country or Rock-and-roll for example. I've heard people describe both in similar terms. For some, country gives off the more positive vibe. Rock more dark and edgy. For others country is just too twangy and altogether too white, male, homogeneous, while rock-and-roll is for all the peace-loving "live and let live" types. Can usually hear the lyrics better in country songs. Hard to deny that fact anyway.
Spent some time in Chicago not too long ago also for example. A pretty liberal city by most standards. From the city we drove out into the country, along the Illinois River, and instantly you could almost feel the "vibe" change. Every other station on the radio was preaching the gospel, and the family sharing the breakfast area in our hotel looked like something from pilgrim days. Father sat in the corner while his wife carried their new born around dressed in bonnet and long dress, making sure all the kids got fed. Their older daughter took care of another younger daughter, all dressed the same way. Three young boys also dressed in genes and long sleeve flannel shirts, pretty much eating everything in sight.
We were certainly in "God's country" where finding any restaurant that didn't pretty well just serve meat and potatoes was rare. Any foreign cuisine was pretty well impossible to find, except maybe Mexican. I could only guess what sort of thinking all that lack of diversity was breeding for the next generation too.
No doubt we've got Americans living in different "worlds" right here in the same country, and depending on what sort of thinking is going on between the ears, so goes your sense of light vs "strange, intangible, oppressive darkness."
Please stop with the bs. Diversity often leads to civil war.
Hutus versus Tutsis
Shia versus Sunni
Protestant versus Catholic
Aryans versus Jews
Muslims versus Christians
Etc ets etc
I don't see any civil war in Canada, nor anything approaching that in the United States either.
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