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Old 06-07-2019, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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They should keep the signs up so that it's a reminder that they are clueless on global warming and climate.


Glacier National Park Quietly Removes Its ‘Gone by 2020’ Signs

St. Mary, Montana. Officials at Glacier National Park (GNP) have begun quietly removing and altering signs and government literature which told visitors that the Park’s glaciers were all expected to disappear by either 2020 or 2030.

In recent years the National Park Service prominently featured brochures, signs and films which boldly proclaimed that all glaciers at GNP were melting away rapidly. But now officials at GNP seem to be scrambling to hide or replace their previous hysterical claims while avoiding any notice to the public that the claims were inaccurate. Teams from Lysander Spooner University visiting the Park each September have noted that GNP’s most famous glaciers such as the Grinnell Glacier and the Jackson Glacier appear to have been growing—not shrinking—since about 2010.



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Old 06-07-2019, 10:32 AM
 
Location: CA
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They'll just update it to 2040.
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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They'll just update it to 2040.
No... they are not making that mistake again. Now it's just some undefined nebulous point in the future.


But at some point during this past winter (as the visitor center was closed to the public), workers replaced the diorama’s ‘gone by 2020’ engraving with a new sign indicating the glaciers will disappear in “future generations.”


They tried to sneak in the sign change and did it while the park was closed. Nice try...
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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I don’t know, man. My husband and I spent three full weeks up in Glacier just a few years ago. One day we took a long helicopter tour over the entire glacier region and honestly, there just isn’t much left. 2020 was a real stretch of a date, but I can definitely see depletion around 2030. I recommend anyone who has ever wanted to visit Glacier giddyup and do it pretty soon, because regardless of the cause, the glaciers are definitely shrinking.
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:42 AM
 
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I don’t know, man. My husband and I spent three full weeks up in Glacier just a few years ago. One day we took a long helicopter tour over the entire glacier region and honestly, there just isn’t much left. 2020 was a real stretch of a date, but I can definitely see depletion around 2030. I recommend anyone who has ever wanted to visit Glacier giddyup and do it pretty soon, because regardless of the cause, the glaciers are definitely shrinking.
They should be, we are still coming out of the last ice age.
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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They should be, we are still coming out of the last ice age.
15,000 years ago -- a blink of an eye in geological terms -- the ground I'm sitting on was covered by a sheet of ice roughly two miles thick. As it melted and retreated, it left behind the world's largest repository of fresh water that is the literal life blood of this entire region. Oh yeah, and the world became a much more hospitable place for living things. Mankind, once on the verge of extinction, now thrives and flourishes. Yay global warming!
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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I don’t know, man. My husband and I spent three full weeks up in Glacier just a few years ago. One day we took a long helicopter tour over the entire glacier region and honestly, there just isn’t much left. 2020 was a real stretch of a date, but I can definitely see depletion around 2030. I recommend anyone who has ever wanted to visit Glacier giddyup and do it pretty soon, because regardless of the cause, the glaciers are definitely shrinking.
Interesting - the person from the article goes there every year and says glaciers have been increasing since 2010.

Maybe it was worse off back in 2010?
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:47 AM
 
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They will eventually be replaced by signs indicating where the glaciers once were.
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:48 AM
 
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If we are still coming out of an ice age then expect our border issues to get worse. If it’s scorched earth past Mexico due to increased temps and no rain, those people will be coming to our door for help.

That would mean that this border crisis will continue and a simple wall won’t help if millions are coming. A concrete or steel wall won’t hold that many back without turning into a shooting gallery.
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Interesting - the person from the article goes there every year and says glaciers have been increasing since 2010.

Maybe it was worse off back in 2010?
I can’t buy into that; you can see photographic evidence of recession in centers all around the park. The big debate to me is what is fractionally just natural weather patterns, and what if any is “man made”.
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