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Old 06-20-2019, 07:28 AM
 
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Name one.

Alot of people perceive regular middle class people as rich nowadays.
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Old 06-20-2019, 07:29 AM
 
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It is a rigged system, but they dont want to you to figure that out. Its to their advantage to be able to put their thumb on you, with no recourse. They do seem to try and get away with things until some one calls them on it. Trumps even pushing to be president for life. See where thats heading.
LOL. If you can’t figure out, how is that rigged?
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Old 06-20-2019, 07:31 AM
 
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Yet the vast majority of the media are communist propaganda advocating the extermination of all rich people.
You’ve got to be joking. There’s not a single media outlet advocating communism or the extermination of rich people.

Give us the name of one media outlet that is communist and advocating the extermination of the rich. Otherwise, you look like a fool.
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Old 06-20-2019, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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[quote=lifeexplorer;55470293]The power of money does NOT buy votes.



You win for the most idiotic post of the day. You mean to say influence, and it does.
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Old 06-20-2019, 07:32 AM
 
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You’ve got to be joking. There’s not a single media outlet advocating communism or the extermination of rich people.

Give us the name of one media outlet that is communist and advocating the extermination of the rich. Otherwise, you look like a fool.
CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NYT etc. etc. etc.
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Old 06-20-2019, 07:33 AM
 
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The power of money does NOT buy votes.



You win for the most idiotic post of the day.
You win the most asinine post of the year.

Provide one example that money buys votes.
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Old 06-20-2019, 07:35 AM
 
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CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NYT etc. etc. etc.
Give us one example of those media outlets advocating communism or the extermination of the rich.
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Old 06-20-2019, 07:36 AM
 
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Basically the city of London, the true crown. The queen is just a figurehead of a kingdom that her ancestors ceded real power to.
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Old 06-20-2019, 07:50 AM
 
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The power of money does NOT buy votes. Each voter gets to decide under their own free will.
I guess you never heard of lobbyists.

It's hard to believe people still exist at the level of naivete displayed by the OP in this thread.
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Old 06-20-2019, 08:43 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Heard this many times from the leftists. Just exactly who is in this ruling class?

In America, 70% of rich people lose their wealth by the third generation and 90% by the fourth. That’s on top of 80% of millionaires are self made and first generation.

So what is this ruling class? Does it even exist?

Well, the "ruling class" is just where it has always been. With big money business and Washington politicians. Ever ask yourself why someone who is already a multi million/billionaire would spend hundreds of millions of dollars to be elected to a position that only pays 175 grand a year? Power. The one thing that edges money as a desirable thing. The two go hand in glove really.


This power structure was really apparent post Civil War when big business and the government could flex muscles pretty much with impunity. This was SOP on the Western frontier where the banks, railroads, big mining and big cattle operations ruled the roost. With the backing of government from local all the way to federal levels.


Regular people who went West for a new start quickly found out that they had no protection under any law. If they settled on land that any of the aforementioned interests wanted they either accepted a pittance for it or they would be burned out and probably murdered. The big interests had their own law, complete with plenty of muscle complete with badges that enforced it. President Grant even put the Army at their disposal. Government and big business were one in the same.


Over time power has shifted from railroads and mining more to oil and control of water resources with railroads and mining further down the ladder but the banks are still at the top. Overtly violent methods like in the 19th and earlier 20th centuries aren't a go to option any more but things do still happen. It's all done under eminent domain now instead of manifest destiny. But there is little doubt who the "ruling class" are. Of the people, by the people and for the people my aching azz.


All the politicians both Democrat and Republican are mega rich types who are invested in the businesses at the top of the heap and they use their positions to further their own goals. Here in NV the big thing that the politicians and big corporations want control of is water resources. They have been steadily sewing these resources up for a long time now. Hand in hand corporations backed by the government (at all levels) have put a stranglehold on the water. This is getting all those pesky small time farms and ranches out of the way so both land and water can become a bargaining lever for whatever interests are seen fit to bargain. Including foreign interests.


in reality things haven't changed that much from post Civil war times. Just in methods and players.
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