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Summary, you want a nanny to care for you and parents to support you until you lay low.
You got nothing of any value to add to this discussion so I'm just gonna leave you be...
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Originally Posted by Ralph_N_1962
I'm sorry but you are brain dead. No one is entitled to any wage. You earn your wage by providing a skill that an employer values. IT IS NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S JOB TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT PEOPLE MAKE. Get it through your think skull. And for Christs sake please stop calling a tax break welfare. That is THEIR money. The government does not own everything.
I don't think you read what I wrote, or if you did, no one taught you how to comprehend language, process ideas, think critically, and respond with meaningful and relevant counter-arguments. And I'm the one with the thick skull? I also didn't say anything about the government picking and choosing anything and it wasn't me who labeled tax breaks corporate welfare...it's economists, including many on the right. I suppose welfare in your mind is just a cheque the government sends to poor people. Welfare comes in many forms, including tax breaks. Who do you think makes up for the lost revenue?
So who is entitled to a living wage, then, in your opinion? What makes a fast food worker less deserving of a living wage than anyone else? If a fast-food worker working full-time is not entitled to a living wage - and I mean a living wage, not anything lavish - then why do they not deserve to make a living? They are working hard, doing a job that is in high demand.
First, the argument was that those who use government services like Medicaid are poor because they are lazy. Now, the argument has changed - it's not about laziness anymore. Now it's about having the right kind of job, because apparently working hard is not enough.
From your perch, I imagine everyone who works in a low-wage job is there because of some defect in their character that makes them unworthy of a decent life.
But let's take this idea and see where it leads...If everyone made all the right choices (like you have, apparently) and had advanced degrees or training in fields where demand was high, who would pick your fruits and vegetables, butcher your meat, cook your food, serve it to you, clean the streets, pick up trash, book your hotel ad clean the room when you leave, stock the shelves so you can buy products, package those products, take care of the sick and elderly, mind someone's children, landscape their yard, and so on? Do you see the problem?
If everyone is an architect or engineer, who does the low-paying grunt work that gets the architect's vision built according to the engineer's plans? If everyone is a manager, who does the work that the manager delegates?
I'm not saying a fast-food worker should be wealthy necessarily, but why do you believe they are undeserving of a living wage? What makes you so special that you deserve a reasonable income, and who gets to choose which professions are worthy? If you are going to complain about your tax dollars being used to fund social programs for the poor and ALSO claim that only certain jobs should pay a living wage, you have created a bit of a paradox in which only the few can make a living, and those who cannot must suffer in abject poverty because...they made poor choices, I guess? Which brings us back to the same place: if everyone makes all the "right" choices and gets advanced degrees, who is going to do the labor, the service jobs, the jobs that make the American lifestyle possible?
There was a time when working in a fast-food restaurant or stocking shelves in a grocery store or waiting tables was for young people getting their first taste of the working world in order to prepare them for life as a self-sufficient adult. However, in case you didn't notice, the economy has changed drastically in thirty years due to automation, globalization, and consumer demands for cheap goods. Now you can find plenty of people with advanced degrees making lattes at Starbucks because the economy in which their education was once valuable has disappeared.
This brings me back to my initial post in this thread - one that no right-wing members have bothered to comment on in a meaningful way. Corporate America refuses to pay living wages because no one is asking them or forcing them to. In the past, unions were able to effectively raise wages and the standard of living so that workers could make a living wage. Think about post-war America and its prosperity and relative economic equality. Isn't this what MAGA is all about? Getting back to a time when Americans were more prosperous?
Instead, governments at all levels have systematically destroyed the power of organized labor, and now the fox is not just in the hen house - he's running the hen house! And that seems to be just fine to many on the right, who then complain about homelessness, poverty, and their taxes being used to fund social programs that fill in the massive gaps corporate America has left in their quest to become money-making machines for a small group of executives and shareholders. And you wonder why the younger generation looks at the current system and starts thinking come socialism might not be a bad thing.
Meanwhile, the corporate welfare continues unabated and no one on the right complains about their tax dollars being used to give multi-billion dollar companies tax breaks. It's the programs that help the poor that bother you. What the hell is that? What kind of twisted value system leads to that kind of thinking?
Thing is, the posters complaining about their taxes being used for social programs are probably not going to read this post. Those who do will either ignore it completely, or select one point to attack (kind of like you did). I don't understand when so many Americans became so cold-hearted that they would not only claim that the working poor deserve their poverty, but that they object to any of their tax money going to programs who assist those people. Meanwhile, they either ignore or approve of the billions and billions in tax dollars flowing to the wealthiest individuals and corporations. Is that what the right believes? What about the so-called Evangelicals that make up such an important part of its base? What part of the Bible are they reading?
I also live in Canada, and after reading this thread I'm very glad that I do....It seems to me that a large percentage of Americans do not know the meaning of the word empathy.
I also live in Canada, and after reading this thread I'm very glad that I do....It seems to me that a large percentage of Americans do not know the meaning of the word empathy.
It is easy to have empathy if you use someone else's money - that is the problem with the majority of Liberals, they want to help someone else or want something for free but don't use my money, I am too poor, use their money. The rich don't pay their fair share, etc.
The US has the second highest average income net taxes in the world yet 48% pay ZERO federal income taxes and want FREE health care. Health care is never free, it is a matter of who pays. In the Scandinavian countries that are often talked about as an example of free health care, EVERYONE pays - the average taxes can be as much as 50% on someone making less than an average Salary vs close to zero tax in the US.
A.F.A.(obamacare) was beneficial to those on medicaid-some more than others. This "designed to fold onto itself, pyramid scheme" was taking half of some people's salaries.
We already WELL KNOW the empty promises made by the stooge of 8 yrs. who LOVED to play with drones to the cost of THOUSANDS of christian's lives in Syria, and HUNDREDS of American citizens investigated,( The "NGO/IRS" target conservatives for audits) whistle-blowers jailed, and black on white crimes EXPLODED...continue to this day to infect our nation. Remember the M.I.T. miscreant who laughingly stated that most Americans were too stupid to figure out what they did.. I'll never forget that, and his smug arrogance when apolgizing at a hearing.
ALL MOOTS NOW..as we see the rights of ILLEGAL INVADERS surpass & exclude those of American, generational, citizens.
Here in North Carolina, the Republican-dominated legislature has consistently defeated any type of Medicaid expansion. What that means, is that a lower-middle class family who is "too rich" for Medicare (because the income limit to exclude eligibility is so low) and cannot afford ACA plans, is between a rock and a hard place.
So sorry to confuse you! The "above" paragraph with the word Medicare in red, should read Medicaid, which is "implied" by the rest of the sentence. I hope you're confused no longer!
Using the correct wordage changes everything.
When one says medicare, medicaid is NOT implied.
I have the exact same question. It wasn't me that said fast food workers don't deserve a living wage. So many people here complaining about the lazy poor, but apparently the working poor aren't worthy of making a living either.
A person deserves a wage that is comparable to the job they preform. Those who are making a living wage did a few things along the way to be able to earn that wage. They studied and made good grades in high school, took those harder classes, went on to a university or trades school, apprenticed, got particular certifications, etc. Those working minimum wage jobs have done nothing to earn an higher wage. Most or many of us began in those fast food/service jobs.
My first job was in a diner making $1.50/hr + tips. I did not graduate high school. I realized this blew. I worked low wage jobs, got my GED, applied for higher paying jobs, acquired some skills, worked my way up then enrolled in college while working low paying part time jobs. I drove a POS car, no insurance. Rented a POS house. I had no phone (pre cell phone), no cable tv, wifi, internet, no health insurance, didnt eat out, etc. Eventually, I got my B.S. and a good paying job. Then I could afford a house, nice car, etc. etc.
If you are working poor, which I have been, you live within your means. Dont be having kids, get a room mate and do without things you dont need. Work to improve your earning capacity.
Yes, wages have been depressed for some time now but that does not entitle people with no job skills to make more than their position is worth. Growing up I was taught that if you want something you have to work for it.
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