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Old 08-14-2019, 03:28 AM
 
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So men are allowing themselves to pay alimony, 50% of their income to child support, go to jail for non support, lose all their stuff in a divorce, lose their jobs to women, be subjugated, emasculated, feminized? All that chit they constantly complain about. When do you suppose men will change their minds about all that?
You DO realize, the only reason that happens is because men in western countries are far more benevolent than in others, right? If most men didn't want that to happen it wouldn't. Just look at the likes of Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia etc. If most men in said country didn't want women to have any rights, there's not a damn thing women could do about it. Like, even in America, if most men wanted women to live like women in Saudi Arabia, what could women do to stop it?

No matter how much women may not want to admit it, the fact is, whether women have any "rights" or not has always, and will always be dependant on how men feel about it. Kind of like in Aladdin where Jafar is an all-powerful sorcerer, but as Aladdin states, the Genie will always have the power to take it away.
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:54 AM
 
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You DO realize, the only reason that happens is because men in western countries are far more benevolent than in others, right? If most men didn't want that to happen it wouldn't. Just look at the likes of Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia etc. If most men in said country didn't want women to have any rights, there's not a damn thing women could do about it. Like, even in America, if most men wanted women to live like women in Saudi Arabia, what could women do to stop it?
There are powerful motions in this direction today.

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No matter how much women may not want to admit it, the fact is, whether women have any "rights" or not has always, and will always be dependant on how men feel about it. Kind of like in Aladdin where Jafar is an all-powerful sorcerer, but as Aladdin states, the Genie will always have the power to take it away.
What it means to be "strong" is varied.
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Old 08-14-2019, 06:46 AM
 
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You DO realize, the only reason that happens is because men in western countries are far more benevolent than in others, right? If most men didn't want that to happen it wouldn't. Just look at the likes of Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia etc. If most men in said country didn't want women to have any rights, there's not a damn thing women could do about it. Like, even in America, if most men wanted women to live like women in Saudi Arabia, what could women do to stop it?

No matter how much women may not want to admit it, the fact is, whether women have any "rights" or not has always, and will always be dependant on how men feel about it. Kind of like in Aladdin where Jafar is an all-powerful sorcerer, but as Aladdin states, the Genie will always have the power to take it away.
Says a lot about you to use Disney movies and fairy tales as a source on the interpretation of legal rights and obligations. And not the US is not Saudi Arabia. What prevents it to be that way? The Constitution, civil rights laws, legal precedents in cases, a strong civil society, international instruments and so on.
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Old 08-14-2019, 06:48 AM
 
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I don't believe in evolutionary psychology and I'm not a biological reductionist, so neither of your criticisms really work here.

Neither comparative biology nor reductionism are necessary to point out the physiological differences between men and women.
They are to attribute those differences as causation to this degree.
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Old 08-14-2019, 07:08 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Why do the right, always start the dumbest threads?
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Old 08-14-2019, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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We kill bugs lol
I can kill my own bugs without the help of a man, thanks very much. Got a huge cave cricket the other night, and I hate those jumping buggers with a passion.
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Old 08-14-2019, 11:46 AM
 
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There are powerful motions in this direction today.



What it means to be "strong" is varied.
But really, if a group of people are so weak that they're "oppressed" in the first place, why bother giving them "rights" at all? If women in America were living like women in Saudi Arabia for the rest of time, what would be inherently philosophically bad about it? You think some all-powerful being would start punishing men? Other than having babies, what other kind of crucial roles do women do? Despite women being "oppressed" we managed to still go from using sticks and stones to putting men on the moon. Pretty sure even if women were still oppressed today we'd still manage to have all the current technology and the like we have today, men still invent and create everything of note; women have never created anything revolutionary or created companies or services like Google, Microsoft, YouTube, Facebook, iPhones, etc. etc. etc. You can just walk outside and everything you see was built by men.
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Old 08-14-2019, 11:51 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Staying home to raise children requires strength and independence and is not oppressive. Feminists have oppressed women by making them believe they have to “be like men” to be important.
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Old 08-14-2019, 12:01 PM
 
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Staying home to raise children requires strength and independence and is not oppressive. Feminists have oppressed women by making them believe they have to “be like men” to be important.
If that is her choice it is actually empowering. A stay at home mother can also be a feminist. But if the woman wants and decides to work outside the home she has every right to do. If her partner does not respect that choice or if employers refuse to hire her because they do not respect her choice and her capacities and they believe her place is to be at home then that is oppression
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Old 08-14-2019, 01:13 PM
 
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I'm still wondering why any woman would support Trump, after knowing he was &%$@#$ Stormy Daniels while Melania was home pregnant with their son. I would think women would be pi**ed at this. I guess not.

Stockholm syndrome?


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