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Old 08-27-2019, 08:47 PM
 
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Oh please, who is getting their ground beef from Brazil? Mostly it is from US and Canada.
Whether we are getting it all or not:

"Brazil is currently the second-largest commercial beef producer in the world, behind the US"

Our country is already screwed up and polluted by the excess beef production...McDonalds, BTW, sells all over the world and certainly doesn't source it all in the USA.

"The vast majority of the fires have been set by loggers and ranchers to clear land for cattle. The practice is on the rise, encouraged by Jair Bolsonaro, Brazil's populist pro-business president, who is backed by the country's so-called "beef caucus."

Enjoy the cheap meat.
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Old 08-27-2019, 08:51 PM
 
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It's pretty silly that you can't understand the analogy.
be a pal and explain it for us.
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Old 08-27-2019, 08:52 PM
 
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We should all know better than to listen when Hollywood and DeCrapio and others chime in its bogus.....they are PAID liars and are very good at it.........

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michael...s#285b7be05bde
I don't listen to Leo and those Hollywood stars. I listen to scientists and geographers. And those are the persons who are the most likely to understand the importance of the Amazon rainforest. It's basically a carbon sink, absorbing the CO2 and releasing alot of oxygen. I'll believe the geographers and scientists before I listen to some FOX News pundit.
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Old 08-27-2019, 09:42 PM
 
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Whether we are getting it all or not:

"Brazil is currently the second-largest commercial beef producer in the world, behind the US"

Our country is already screwed up and polluted by the excess beef production...McDonalds, BTW, sells all over the world and certainly doesn't source it all in the USA.

"The vast majority of the fires have been set by loggers and ranchers to clear land for cattle. The practice is on the rise, encouraged by Jair Bolsonaro, Brazil's populist pro-business president, who is backed by the country's so-called "beef caucus."

Enjoy the cheap meat.
And I will enjoy my cheap meat sourced from the USA, that has nothing to do with the Amazon deforestation.
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Old 08-27-2019, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Florida
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We should all know better than to listen when Hollywood and DeCrapio and others chime in its bogus.....they are PAID liars and are very good at it.........

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michael...s#285b7be05bde
How much did they pay DiCaprio to donate $5 million to the cause?
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Old 08-27-2019, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Florida
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OUCH! The easily manipulated are going to scream that this guy is a hack or something. Watch. I knew those pictures couldn't have been real, a RAIN forest wouldn't burn like that.
It burns quite well during the dry season, but it has been happening for a long time. This is not new.

There is nothing like a nice slab of south American Churrasco/Vacio on the grill.
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Old 08-27-2019, 10:43 PM
 
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Hey, as long as y'all can get 99 cent burgers, who cares about the native tribes, the trees and all of that stuff?

Funny how people talk about China of India polluting....how bad bad bad it is, but then they approve of the world being clear cut for cheaper beef so they can fatten themselves up more and more.

Sadly, that is the root cause of all of this. Beef.
I guess it hasn't occurred to you that many of these tracts that are burning were actually cleared of trees some years ago and put into farming and ranching at that point. Which is not to say that the fires aren't consuming established forest lands, but much of the land burning this summer are cleared tracts adjacent to the rain forest.

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The New York Times, based on their own analysis of the data, confirms what I suspected about Brazil: "most of the fires are burning on agricultural land where the forest had already been cleared."
https://www.accuweather.com/en/weath...fires/70009150

Something else the article makes clear is that portions of the Amazon region burn every year. The number of fires this year is slightly below average for Brazil itself over the past seven years, although it's well below the average annual fire count for all of the Amazon states in South America. As the article points out, fires in the Amazon are not a new problem, and this year may not be markedly worse than any other given year.
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Old 08-28-2019, 01:00 AM
 
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If these people want us to feel really bad about the Amazon fires, it helps if they used REAL facts and not exaggerations! Now, I do have sympathy with the indigenous people there but what is the most practical way to address this swarm of forest fires?
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Old 08-28-2019, 01:26 AM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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Someone is in need of a botany course.
I think they were referring to plants using carbon dioxise and producing oxygen, and lungs using oxygen. It was a misnomer to say the amazon were the lungs of the world.
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Old 08-28-2019, 04:42 AM
 
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I think they were referring to plants using carbon dioxise and producing oxygen, and lungs using oxygen. It was a misnomer to say the amazon were the lungs of the world.
eds is in need of a basic biology course.
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