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Old 11-04-2019, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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It would really behoove the Democrats if they shifted more center and get back to bread and butter issues. Health care as you said is a big one.

They need to stop trying to court the illegals and they need to start trying to get back the middle class white vote back that they've lost. Not going to do that by constantly screaming how racist the country is. It's fear mongering at it's finest.
Just look at their healthcare plan being proposed (crap). They also have no economic plan to offer struggling Americans.

Right now they have nothing, but BS hoaxes to discredit Trump; that’s their only platform. If they had any good common sense policies, I’d even vote Democrat. But they don’t. Just TDS, and the ONLY cure for TDS is another four more years of Trump, Lol.

Democrats better wake up.
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Old 11-04-2019, 12:51 PM
 
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Fairly audacious accusation from a group supporting a president who built his entire base off of an untrue birther conspiracy theory. Did you guys learn how to do basic fact checks between then and now?
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Old 11-04-2019, 12:55 PM
 
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I think if Trump is re-elected (which is highly likely), the Democrats will face a reckoning and will have to look at their party and figure out where it has gone so wrong. They are a lost party--and all over the place. A mess--Trump has played a large part in exposing and unhinging them as a party.

They need to focus on putting forth a winnable 2024 candidate.

Especially if the Democrats also lost the house, wow, they would truly become unhinged and I think they'll be forced to become more moderate--if they want to win presidential elections again.
This should have already happened, 8 years of Obama decimated the Democrat party, he left them at their weakest point in 100 years but they still love him.
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Old 11-04-2019, 01:00 PM
 
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It would really behoove the Democrats if they shifted more center and get back to bread and butter issues. Health care as you said is a big one.

They need to stop trying to court the illegals and they need to start trying to get back the middle class white vote back that they've lost. Not going to do that by constantly screaming how racist the country is. It's fear mongering at it's finest.
Democrats cater to minorities. Not whites. They don’t care about whites. They haven’t won the white vote in over 55 years.
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Old 11-04-2019, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Their insane lurch to the far left is their undoing
They want full blown communism and don't hide it anymore.
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Old 11-04-2019, 01:08 PM
 
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Just look at their healthcare plan being proposed (crap). They also have no economic plan to offer struggling Americans.

Right now they have nothing, but BS hoaxes to discredit Trump; that’s their only platform. If they had any good common sense policies, I’d even vote Democrat. But they don’t. Just TDS, and the ONLY cure for TDS is another four more years of Trump, Lol.

Democrats better wake up.
Ok Boomer
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Old 11-04-2019, 01:37 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Just look at their healthcare plan being proposed (crap). They also have no economic plan to offer struggling Americans.

Right now they have nothing, but BS hoaxes to discredit Trump; that’s their only platform. If they had any good common sense policies, I’d even vote Democrat. But they don’t. Just TDS, and the ONLY cure for TDS is another four more years of Trump, Lol.

Democrats better wake up.
I've been saying this for a while now. I work with a guy who's a far far lefty and even he's finally starting to acknowledge that the Dems are lost in terms of their message. I remember back when the dems actually cared about the working class middle class crowd, strong on labor unions and stronger on border security.

I don't know WTH happened to the moderate dems, they need to wrestle control back from the more extreme parts of the party.

I'm not a political strategists but even a layman like myself that this is looking obvious, how is it the folks at the DNC can't see this?

Maybe they are now, ol' Nancy this weekend came out and said that the party needs to cater to people other than just the lefty San Francisco crowd.
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Old 11-04-2019, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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I hate to admit it, but there has been some evidence that Democrats are better at garnering the low info vote:
Pew Research: Republicans More Knowledgeable Than Democrats

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Republicans generally outperformed Democrats on the current quiz. On 13 of the 19 questions, Republicans score significantly higher than Democrats and there are no questions on which Democrats did better than Republicans. In past knowledge quizzes, partisan differences have been more muted, though Republicans often have scored somewhat higher than Democrats.”
Or you can just go to the 'campusreform' site and watch some of their many 'man on the street' interviews at colleges around the country.

I don't think the problem is Democrats in general, but rather the far left loons in combination with the low-info useful idiot masses.
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Old 11-04-2019, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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This should have already happened, 8 years of Obama decimated the Democrat party, he left them at their weakest point in 100 years but they still love him.
What exactly were the core issues that Trump ran on.
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Old 11-04-2019, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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This should have already happened, 8 years of Obama decimated the Democrat party, he left them at their weakest point in 100 years but they still love him.
Well this is true.

I think the "all-in" by the party to impeach Trump though, will result in them most likely losing the election in 2020.

Then they'll be forced to move more moderate, or risk not winning a presidential election again for a long time.

The country is not ready for a far left agenda, and that's why Warren will lose if she goes up against Trump.
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