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The 2012 immigration reform bill wasn't "reform" it was amnesty. Even with e-verify in it it wouldn't go into effect for 5 years and those already working wouldn't have to pass it.
That means it would have become law 3 years ago, and the wall would probably be built by now, along with other surveillance. It WAS a reform, but like I said GOP would rather keep the problem, so they can continue to complain about it.
Show where they broke the law (20 years ago) in coming here and you might have an argument. Law's are a funny thing, they tend to be one way, then change to being another way, to not being there and then poof, there's a law .... Kind of like the u.s. "word".
Path to citizenship? What's that?
When the history books get written about today's America, the u.s. is not the good guy in the story.
It doesn't matter if they broke the law or not, and nobody is suggesting that DACAs be criminally prosecuted. However innocent they may have arrived here, they are not entitled to remain here and benefit from the illegal actions of their parents. If a mother sneaks her kids into Disneyland and gets caught, the kids may not be held responsible for any violations but they don't get to stay in the park.
Btw, show me where our government ever offered them a path to citizenship. That may have been the bleating of some liberal politicians but there has never been a legal process established.
That means it would have become law 3 years ago, and the wall would probably be built by now, along with other surveillance. It WAS a reform, but like I said GOP would rather keep the problem, so they can continue to complain about it.
Where in that bill did it allow for good physical barriers to be built? How was it "reform"? It would still have been against the law to enter our country illegally. You have it a**backwards. It's the Democrats that want the problem to continue and to give amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, not the Republicans. How does that fix the problem?
Sure, you might ask Trump what happened to Congress, since he seems to rule by EO, which is something he hypocritically criticized Obama for doing.
DACA is not law, it is policy, and courts have not ruled it unconstitutional. Since it is not law, it does not need an act of Congress to end it, and it does not even need the SC, and like I said the SC are not currently looking into whether or not it was constitutional.
Yes, and each time the Liberal States Judges has struck them down.
DACA was a policy unilaterally signed by President Obama when he was in office.
Now Obama is no longer in Office as president.
DACA should have automatically ended when another president came into office since it's no longer the policy of the new or current president in office.
This is what I hope to happen. The u.s. sends the DACA's to their country of origin (perhaps they get even more zealous and deport others) those people raise up those countries and the u.s. finds out in about 20 years, they made a huge mistake. Wish I could live long enough to watch it all happen, but just know my ghost will be laughing its ... off.
That's what we all hope to happen - have "those" people raise up "those" countries. But it won't be a huge mistake because then "those" countries will not be sending masses of illegals and leaching off the economic success of the USA. Instead, they too would be nice places to live and work and raise families.
Funny, if that is what you really think will happen then it is clearly in the best interests of Latin America for that to happen and you should be 100% behind expelling DACA and every other "productive" illegal.
He’s not wrong about the republicans. They had a two year majority in Congress and refused to implement e-verify or any punishments on employers of illegals. They could have taxed or stopped all the remissions and done other penalties and tried to reform the visa over stays but did nothing to help Trump on this.
A majority in the Senate doesn't mean you get to pass anything you want because it takes 60 votes to overcome a filibuster.
Yes, it is. I wonder if they could expedite that 12 year path to citizenship plan? If not that is 700,000 people who pay taxes that may be leaving the u.s., with their kids. That's a chunk of change the u.s. is willing to forgo, just to make an (AH) point. If DACA killed, the US could lose $433 billion over the next 10 years
that article is hilarious....
1. it quickly veers from DACA/illegal immigrants to conflating them with legal immigrants, which do indeed make us a great country.
2. the illegal ones can't start any businesses, hire any employees above the table, etc.
4. That gruesome-sounding (article says "staggering") $433B over 10 years is ....
It doesn't matter if they broke the law or not, and nobody is suggesting that DACAs be criminally prosecuted. However innocent they may have arrived here, they are not entitled to remain here and benefit from the illegal actions of their parents. If a mother sneaks her kids into Disneyland and gets caught, the kids may not be held responsible for any violations but they don't get to stay in the park.
Btw, show me where our government ever offered them a path to citizenship. That may have been the bleating of some liberal politicians but there has never been a legal process established.
The issue when it comes to DACA is that certain people are more wrapped up in emotional concern about what DACA recipients "deserve" (as set forth in the quoted post, for example) rather than considering whether deporting them is an objectively good idea from a socioeconomic perspective. By all statistical measures they are high-functioning, integrated net contributors to society. Especially, after having already invested in educating them, why would we want to force them to leave?
The argument for deporting DACA recipients is fueled 100% by emotion and 0% by logic and reason.
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