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If pirates are becoming a threat, then civilian ships will have to be armed or escorted. The same logic that applies to a civilian carrying a personal firearm applies to a civilian ship in pirate infested waters. Always be alert, aware and armed if there is any possibility of assault.
It's posts like this that make you one of my favorite posters, despite your socialist beliefs.
Exactly, there are criminals everywhere (not literally everywhere, but you know what I mean) and the police and military aren't always there to help us, so you have got to have the means to defend yourself if it ever comes to that.
I cannot (unfortunately I actually can) imagine a US Navy ship being taken by pirates and the pirates surviving. After all the USS Cole was blown up because somebody didn’t order the gunners to sink a suspicious boat.
When I was in ‘Nam our ship had machine gunners stationed with their 50’s one pull from being loaded. They were told to contact the bridge if they spotted anything suspicious and request permission to fire. If given permission they were supposed to keep firing until the suspicious object (boat, swimmwr, floating coconut, mine) was destroyed. I have a hard time thinking these elemental precautions have been forgotten.
The open sea and some narrow seas are not and never have been secure places. The law allows for a ship, commercial or military, to tell a potential threat to stand off and if they do not, to sink them. A Captain must never allow his ship to be taken by pirates because of his compassion or consideration of anything but his ship and his crew.
Well, it was a classified issue. But they got on via the fan tail (where the hell watch was the watch?). It was a very small tender ship. I can't recall the name of it.
I think this right here describes the problem we face
"They have weapons, but so do we. And we are the ones with the human shields," he said, noting that troops are loath to use force because it risks harming hostages.
Shoot right thru the human shields? After doing that a few times, I think they would lose their cockiness.
I intend to see to it that any man that sails under a pirate flag or wears a pirate brand gets what he deserves...
As a Somali myself I have ZERO sympathy for the hostages and crew. They are ILLEGALLY FISHING AND ROBBING SOMALIA'S MARINE RESOURCES when the Somalis are dying of hunger and war, so to shed tears for these robbers is quite absurd. These ships pay no tax nor follow any international laws. So I have Zero Sympathy for them
Decentralization of nearly everything means that small groups of highly motivated people with very little in the way of resources can cause major disruption or global system shock. I worry more about the ones in Africa who shut down 70-100 million barrels of crude in an afternoon outing.
As a Somali myself I have ZERO sympathy for the hostages and crew. They are ILLEGALLY FISHING AND ROBBING SOMALIA'S MARINE RESOURCES when the Somalis are dying of hunger and war, so to shed tears for these robbers is quite absurd. These ships pay no tax nor follow any international laws. So I have Zero Sympathy for them
Ahhh,one of theships was carrying food TO Somalia...
Also isn't this happening in international waters???
If pirates are becoming a threat, then civilian ships will have to be armed or escorted. The same logic that applies to a civilian carrying a personal firearm applies to a civilian ship in pirate infested waters. Always be alert, aware and armed if there is any possibility of assault.
There is no excuse for a warship to ever be taken by pirates.
You might want to brush up on your "knowledge" regarding having firearms onboard a private sailboat before you try to follow your own advice there skipper. Our US Coast Guard is gentile compared to the treatment you will recieve if a weapon is found aboard when entering foreign waters.
JBrown - What countries are you talking about? Cannot the Master of any vessel be armed by international law? I really do not know.
Enter Mexican territory with a firearm and you will be in a heap.
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