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Old 10-15-2020, 08:31 PM
 
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Do you have to OWN a home -- no.

But you do have to have a place of residence. Are we sure he doesn't have an aprtment for he and Mother to run off to when the pressures in Washington DC get to be too much?
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Old 10-16-2020, 04:46 AM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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Some Indiana residents have raised the question that it may not be.
He’s using the governor’s mansion as his address, however, the governor’s mansion has had a new occupant for some years.

“ Under Indiana law, a person cannot have residency both inside and outside of the state, so Hoosiers have questions.
...
Pence's team cites Indiana Code 3-5-5-1, "A person does not lose residency in a precinct in Indiana by reason of a person's absence on business of the United States. But the state's residency law also says in IC 3-5-5-9, "if a person is physically present within another state with the intention of remaining in the other state for an indefinite time...the person loses residency in the precinct…"

Per the article, Pence’s team has not said whether he plans to return to Indiana, but he owns no property there and since he lives in “temporary government-provided housing” his address reverts to his last legal address, which is the governor’s mansion.

Of course, they’ll let him and Mother vote, but, seriously?

https://www.wthr.com/article/news/ve...6-55c9b10fea76
Technically he isn't in another "State"; he is in the District of Columbia.
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Old 10-16-2020, 05:08 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Where does he pay taxes?
^^^^ times a billion.
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Old 10-16-2020, 05:37 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Do you have to OWN a home -- no.

But you do have to have a place of residence. Are we sure he doesn't have an aprtment for he and Mother to run off to when the pressures in Washington DC get to be too much?
Actually you don’t, not if you are a member of the military or family member, they assigned us to the precinct of our last official address in the state. My husband stayed in the same precinct for decades after we no longer had a place of residence anywhere in the state. I also know, because I personally ran into people serving overseas who had the same rules, that this also applies to employees of the Department of Defense, the Department of State, and DoDS teachers. I would imagine that whatever laws or regulations that allowed this also cover others who are living in a temporary residence to perform work for the federal government.

Through the years we owned houses at some stateside bases but hubby still retained his Kentucky voting precinct. I decided to change voting places every place we moved because I wanted to vote in local school board elections once I had kids in school. This resulted in him voting in Kentucky and me voting in Tennessee while we were in Germany.

The point is, the state is using Pence’s last address in the state to assign him his precinct - just like they would do for a member of the military. Using the governor’s mansion is no different than if his last official address had been a studio apartment he rented, a home he had owned and now was sold, the couch in his BFF’s mother’s basement, or a homeless shelter.
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Old 10-16-2020, 05:47 AM
 
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The military and overseas employment are different; Pence is neither and apparently hasn't complied with IN law - the state's are pretty uniform in this now.

In VA, as an example, one must establish legal presence or fulfill certain legal requirements. If these are met, then the person may vote, but they all require that certain steps be taken. See the link below for Virginia's exemptions and processes:

https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/webdoc/pdf/dmv143.pdf

https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/webdoc/pdf/dmv143.pdf

Its not difficult for Pence to take care of these things and to do it right.
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Old 10-16-2020, 05:52 AM
 
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Some Indiana residents have raised the question that it may not be.
He’s using the governor’s mansion as his address, however, the governor’s mansion has had a new occupant for some years.

“ Under Indiana law, a person cannot have residency both inside and outside of the state, so Hoosiers have questions.
...
Pence's team cites Indiana Code 3-5-5-1, "A person does not lose residency in a precinct in Indiana by reason of a person's absence on business of the United States. But the state's residency law also says in IC 3-5-5-9, "if a person is physically present within another state with the intention of remaining in the other state for an indefinite time...the person loses residency in the precinct…"

Per the article, Pence’s team has not said whether he plans to return to Indiana, but he owns no property there and since he lives in “temporary government-provided housing” his address reverts to his last legal address, which is the governor’s mansion.

Of course, they’ll let him and Mother vote, but, seriously?

https://www.wthr.com/article/news/ve...6-55c9b10fea76
Probably about as legal as Hillary running for the Senate in NY.
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Old 10-16-2020, 06:05 AM
 
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Lol... Democrats are going to cry a lot when he votes in Indiana... This must keep their minds occupied over something so trivial... Maybe all college students should be ineligible to vote since they don't plan on being in Indiana forever or maybe the homeless should not be able to vote because they don't have a house or may the military can't vote because they are overseas... Lol... Liberals... Cheat any way you can try... They love to try to suppress votes...
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Old 10-16-2020, 06:10 AM
 
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Originally Posted by TigerLily24 View Post
Some Indiana residents have raised the question that it may not be.
He’s using the governor’s mansion as his address, however, the governor’s mansion has had a new occupant for some years.

“ Under Indiana law, a person cannot have residency both inside and outside of the state, so Hoosiers have questions.
...
Pence's team cites Indiana Code 3-5-5-1, "A person does not lose residency in a precinct in Indiana by reason of a person's absence on business of the United States. But the state's residency law also says in IC 3-5-5-9, "if a person is physically present within another state with the intention of remaining in the other state for an indefinite time...the person loses residency in the precinct…"

Per the article, Pence’s team has not said whether he plans to return to Indiana, but he owns no property there and since he lives in “temporary government-provided housing” his address reverts to his last legal address, which is the governor’s mansion.

Of course, they’ll let him and Mother vote, but, seriously?

https://www.wthr.com/article/news/ve...6-55c9b10fea76
"Some Indiana residents have raised the question that it may not be. have raised the question that it may not be."


SOME Indiana residents, are STUPID!
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Old 10-16-2020, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Probably about as legal as Hillary running for the Senate in NY.
How so?
The Clintons purchased property in NY state.

Had they continued to use the WH or the Arkansas governor’s mansion as their address, I would have had exactly the same question.
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Old 10-16-2020, 06:15 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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The military and overseas employment are different; Pence is neither and apparently hasn't complied with IN law - the state's are pretty uniform in this now.

In VA, as an example, one must establish legal presence or fulfill certain legal requirements. If these are met, then the person may vote, but they all require that certain steps be taken. See the link below for Virginia's exemptions and processes:

https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/webdoc/pdf/dmv143.pdf

https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/webdoc/pdf/dmv143.pdf

Its not difficult for Pence to take care of these things and to do it right.
He’s not in Virginia, so Virginia laws are immaterial. Regardless, he is a federal employee (yes, he is, even though he was elected into the job) on a time limited assignment living in assigned government owned quarters. Here are the guidelines:

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What is my voting residence and why is it important?

For the purposes of voting, your residence is in the state or territory where you last resided, immediately before your assignment. It is the true, fixed address that you considered your permanent home and where you had a physical presence.
This residence may remain valid even if:
• You no longer own property or have other ties to that state.
• Your intent to return to that state is uncertain.
• Your previous address is no longer a recognized residential address.
You need a voting residence to vote via absentee ballot — even if you are only voting for federal offices. Your election office needs your exact voting residence address to send you the correct ballot for your voting precinct
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