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"You chose hope and unity, decency, science and, yes, truth."--referring to concepts embraced by Biden, however flawed he may be.
. . . as opposed to Trump, who was, in my opinion, divisive, not the least bit decent, very much anti-science, and an unrepentant compulsive liar.
Do you believe Trump is unifying, decent, pro-science, and honest?
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Originally Posted by katygirl68
Do you believe Joe Biden is? The man has enriched himself at the government trough for 47 years and his biggest accomplishment is the 1994 crime bill. He’s taken bribes from foreign countries. He calls half the country irredeemable racists and blames all Covid deaths in this country on Donald Trump. The democrats have literally accused the republican candidate of murder at their last three national conventions.
If you want to claim that as decency or unifying then I don’t know what to tell you.
"You chose hope and unity, decency, science and, yes, truth."--referring to concepts embraced by Biden, however flawed he may be.
. . . as opposed to Trump, who was, in my opinion, divisive, not the least bit decent, very much anti-science, and an unrepentant compulsive liar.
Do you believe Trump is unifying, decent, pro-science, and honest?
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Originally Posted by Dave_n_Tenn
IMO... You present "in the corner" choices, with no 'other' options. I don't see the choices the same as you. I see a populist who knows that people are tired of hearing what politicians sell (lie about), and has something "different" to offer. I also see him as a decent salesman who delivered on his promises, who sees science with healthy skepticism, but without much science to back up his beliefs.
President Trump's prism is one of business and if the science is in conflict with business, he is probably gonna deny the science, but in fact... he may BELIEVE or know the science. Kinda like calling antifa a myth.
Please. No one is being dishonest other then those trying to sow division in our country. She didnt label you folks at all. Sheesh. Your guy lost, quit freaking out and trying to make the new folks into some enemy that just isnt there.
While I thought the speech writer did a nice job for Joe, Kamala delivered a poisonous critique of half the country.
To her supporters she said: "You delivered a clear message. You chose hope, unity, decency, science, and, yes, truth. You chose Joe Biden as the next president of the United States of America."
She thinks those who voted against Biden did so because they don't want unity, they are indecent, and they are ultimately dishonest people.
She says those who voted against Joe, did so to destroy the "soul" of America: "And when our very democracy was on the ballot in this election, with the very soul of America at stake, and the world watching, you ushered in a new day for America."
But she asks those evil people to believe: "No matter who you voted for...waking up every day thinking of you and your family.... To unite our country and heal the soul of our nation."
She also throws in a few lies like this whopper to claim unearned identity politics points for the big guy: "And what a testament it is to Joe’s character that he had the audacity to break one of the most substantial barriers that exists in our country and select a woman as his vice president.". Fact check = False. The barrier was long gone...
But there was the odd snippet of truth: "a man (Biden) with a big heart who loves with abandon". Fact check = True!!!
The Democrats, especially the progressive wing like Kammie-don't want "unity". They want submission.
While I thought the speech writer did a nice job for Joe, Kamala delivered a poisonous critique of half the country.
To her supporters she said: "You delivered a clear message. You chose hope, unity, decency, science, and, yes, truth. You chose Joe Biden as the next president of the United States of America."
She thinks those who voted against Biden did so because they don't want unity, they are indecent, and they are ultimately dishonest people.
She says those who voted against Joe, did so to destroy the "soul" of America: "And when our very democracy was on the ballot in this election, with the very soul of America at stake, and the world watching, you ushered in a new day for America."
But she asks those evil people to believe: "No matter who you voted for...waking up every day thinking of you and your family.... To unite our country and heal the soul of our nation."
She also throws in a few lies like this whopper to claim unearned identity politics points for the big guy: "And what a testament it is to Joe’s character that he had the audacity to break one of the most substantial barriers that exists in our country and select a woman as his vice president.". Fact check = False. The barrier was long gone...
But there was the odd snippet of truth: "a man (Biden) with a big heart who loves with abandon". Fact check = True!!!
LOL. Ah yes, the ol "yes or no" demands. You use large words to hide juvenile attempts to misframe a topic.
What are you talking about? If the "soul" of the country was "at stake," that means that the soul would either have been preserved or destroyed. If someone says that their life is "at stake" in a certain situation, what do you think that means? That means that they'll either live or die. Doesn't it?
Sheesh. Your guy lost, quit freaking out and trying to make the new folks into some enemy that just isnt there.
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Originally Posted by greywar
Yawn. Sure ya didnt, this non stop stream of hate is just random chance. Got it.
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Originally Posted by filmsniffer
You, like Trump, absolutely hate it when democracy works against you.
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Originally Posted by _jbub88_
what happened to the thought that Americans need to come together. Its time to use proper language when talking to all Americans.
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Originally Posted by thedirtypirate
Sad to see the party of Trump continue their hate and division.
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Originally Posted by EddieB.Good
And she's right. There's mountains of evidence that Trump's base was all of those things. The fact that you voted for someone who happily orphans migrant children as punishment to their parents says everything about how despicable and deplorable Trump's base is.
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo
The lengths Trumplings go to in order to keep stoking their irrational anger, fear and hatred.
I lump these all together because of the utter lack of self-awareness.
I did not vote for Trump in 2016, so I am not a Trump voter, nor can I be called a Trump supporter. I have seen over the past four years the vicious attacks on his presidency, his policies (even when they were policies Democrats agreed with the day before he won), his wife (unprecented, vicious attacks against a First Lady), his appointees and finally his supporters. A lot of his most ardent supporters are people who were Democrats not long ago, but felt abandoned by the Democratic Party. Most are just decent, Middle America working people who've seen jobs go away, their wages stagnate, their values trashed and a Supreme Court that aided and abetted in trashing the values and norms that have existed in their communities for eons.
The posts above are dripping with contempt and hate for people who voted for Trump while they pretend they want unity and are against divisiveness and hate. The irony would be rich if it wasn't tragic instead.
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Originally Posted by usayit
If I say my friends are good people, does that mean everyone else are bad people?.
Not it wouldn't, but that wasn't what was said. We are talking about voting. If you say, "the people who voted for me are good people" and leave it there. It does imply, "those who did not vote for me are not good (bad)".
If you are going say, "the people who voted for me are good people" and you are trying to unify the people, then you continue "the people who voted for my opponent are good people too and I want you to know your concerns and views will not go unheard". THAT is how you unify.
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Originally Posted by EddieB.Good
If someone votes for someone knowing he's a cruel, indecent monster and his cruel, indecent policies... Guess what that makes them all?
Now does that sound unifying? This is the same person who doesn't know what an orphan is. An orphan is a child with both parents dead. The word has a specific meaning. The government, a lot of very liberal Democrat governments, take children away from irresponsible parents everyday in America. When in America a person commits a crime, we separate them from their children. We don't put the children in jail too.
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Originally Posted by kitty61
Those who vote for Trump are willing to accept that he lacks all those things and refuse to give up on him because they think he has done something for them personally choosing to support any of his methods whether selfish, devious or clandestine to obtain it for them.
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Originally Posted by AguaDulce
This is an astute description.
How about those who voted for Trump because he was going to do something for America. "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" Remember that? I can reasonably infer that a LOT of people voted for Biden because of what "America can do for them"; free healthcare, free college, college loans forgiven and the rest of the laundry list of goodies in the basket of promises.
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