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Old 02-21-2021, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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We haven't seen anything yet on health care expenses in America projections are for per-capita to surge to $17,000 per-capita in just 6 years.

America's obesity rates are skrocketing, Biden stimulus and payments for poor families will go to greasy 2,000 calorie meals and cookies, cakes and chips.

Tens and tens of millions of baby boomers are going to be expensive biologic medications in the six-figures lately with Medicare covering 95%.

A majority of Americans are expected to obese in 29 states in just 8 years and 25% of Americans will be severely obese by 2030

Tremendous amounts of auto-immune disorders, severe hay fever from people never being outside when younger, many people in their 20s joints breaking down from severe obesity.

Greece Spending per-capita: $1,566
Albania Spending per-capita: $274
United States spending per-capita: $11,582 but due to increase to $17,700 based on 350 million population and CMS projection of 6.2 trillion spending in 2028

Greece lifepsn average: 81
Albania lifespan average: 79
United States lifespan average: 77

Greeks live on average about 4 years and United States 7 times as much per-capita,
Albanians live on average over a year longer and United State spends 40+ times as much.
Similar lifepsanes to the Polish and United States spends 11 times as much per-capita


https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-r...20per%20person.

https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbo...try-comparison

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-half-n1258219

https://www.cms.gov/files/document/n...st-summary.pdf

https://www.medpagetoday.com/endocri...9%25%2D25.5%25).

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105...s%20(Table%201).

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...tions=PL-AL-GR
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Old 02-21-2021, 01:52 PM
 
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I wonder how much the difference is related to culture? Americans seem stressed, depressed, obsessed with consumerism, sometimes lazy, hooked on painkillers/drugs to cope, etc.

It’s almost like America is designed to be that way...and with all the people hopelessly divided.

Lots of money to be made in treating/feeding/drugging America.
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:13 PM
 
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Obesity is definitely part of the equation.

However, it's a combination of factors that results in America having the lowest life expectancy among developed countries.

Another big one is the lack of a universal health care system and, thus, large amounts of preventative care for huge segments of the population. This especially hits the poor, who tend to need the most care and are the most unhealthy/obese on average. Due to lack of coverage or inadequate health coverage, many wait to go see doctors until it's too late and their health issues are spiraling out of control. With a universal system, a lot (but not all) of these problems could be addressed before they reach breaking point and often times prove fatal.

It's a sinister cycle.
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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The biggest factor on lifespan is diet and the American diet is awful, the worst in the world IMO.

Health care in the USA is good but way too expensive.
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:23 PM
 
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The biggest factor on lifespan is diet and the American diet is awful, the worst in the world IMO.

Health care in the USA is good but way too expensive.
We have access to healthy foods but choose not to eat them. You can’t mandate the will to maybe live those extra years. We are a society that live for glutinous habits (debt, food, pills, pop culture, etc).
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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Greed
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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Greece lifepsn average: 81
Albania lifespan average: 79
United States lifespan average: 77
Greece has a population of 10 million people. Albania is less than 3 million. You can't compare to the U.S. and 330 million.

California with a population of 40 million has an average life expectancy of 81.6 years.
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:47 PM
 
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Obesity is definitely part of the equation.

However, it's a combination of factors that results in America having the lowest life expectancy among developed countries.

Another big one is the lack of a universal health care system and, thus, large amounts of preventative care for huge segments of the population. This especially hits the poor, who tend to need the most care and are the most unhealthy/obese on average. Due to lack of coverage or inadequate health coverage, many wait to go see doctors until it's too late and their health issues are spiraling out of control. With a universal system, a lot (but not all) of these problems could be addressed before they reach breaking point and often times prove fatal.

It's a sinister cycle.
Much of the difference on lifespan can be attributed to differences in the infant mortality rate. The US has a high IMR due to the availability of the best care in the world for premature births. Many nations, particularly those with socialist medial systems, consider 'live' births before say 30 or 32 weeks of gestation to be "stillborn" (and leave them to die) whereas in the US they treat the premature birth. Unfortunately, a lot of these premies die in the first few weeks leading to a high IMR. Premature births are very expensive. My son was born at just under 31 weeks and spent twelve weeks in the hospital at a cost of $750K. You can see why a socialist medical system would allow these premies to die to save costs.

The US has a high premie rate as in wealthy countries, women put off having childen until later in life, leading to a higher rate of premature births.

It's a statistical anomaly that a high IMR leads to a low life span. For every premie that dies in the first weeks, you'd need 80ish elderly to live a year longer to balance it.
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:49 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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So move to Greece and live longer.
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Greece lifepsn average: 81
Albania lifespan average: 79
United States lifespan average: 77




because they walk, have little local markets which people walk/bike to, don't have as many fast food joints, and don't have things like fried twinkies and fatbacks etc


these problems are lifestyle and genetics




life expectancy has very little to do with health CARE



could it be demographics???



but if you break it down further


in the USA, the Asian American female has a life expectancy of 86(the HIGHEST in the WORLD)......(((higher than the 82 in the actual country of japan)))



...........whites are around 83...........Hispanics around 76............and blacks have a LOW LIFE expectancy around 66m/68f.............giving us the AVERAGE of 78.............if you took the (12-15% population) of blacks off that list.........we would have one of the top three life expectancies in the world....




demographic plays BIG ROLES

we also have the HIGHEST teen pregnancy ...which leads to low baby weight, and high infant mortality.....and the highest DEMOGRAPHIC with teen pregnancies'...the African Americans (especially southern AA)

life expectance is more about genetics and life style, than health care

its more about genetics and LIFE STYLES (ie hamhocks, fried twinkies, and fried chicken, McDonalds, fatbacks certainly don't help)

most other places..they walk/bike
most other places don't have 4 tv's to a house


posting about life expectancy. Means actually very little to medicine

difference between us and the highest is....4 years ...is that relatively low (78yrs-82yrs)

and the reason...

is not health care


its....


LIFE STYLE (especially EATING, and EXERCISE), and demographics (ethnics)
demographics, to include eating habits, GENES, TEEN PREGNANCIES, traffic accidents, cancer, etc..ALL effect those numbers


yes I said traffic accidents....you think that the 2x amount of traffic accidents (of the world) is NOT going to lower the top level???


if you compared country "A" to country "B"...and said "A" has an average age of 38..and "B" has an average age of 51...which country do you think would be more PRODUCTIVE and HEALTHY

demographics (and their LIFE STYLE and GENETICS) plays BIG ROLES





life expectancy is not about health care.. but about healthy living.....too bad the liberhaddists dont understand that
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