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Old 04-14-2021, 04:27 AM
 
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Sure, we can go there but then we have to go into why!

You can't redline the entire nation, putting blacks in ghettos, and then go OMG, they commit more crime, mercy me what is it with these people?

So go into the why.

Doesn't change the fact I pointed out.
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Old 04-14-2021, 04:32 AM
 
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i didn't know US government shipping black people to the ghettos. do they have to wear star of david armbands too?
Armbands or little stars are not needed to differentiate white people from black people.

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In 1933, faced with a housing shortage, the federal government began a program explicitly designed to increase — and segregate — America's housing stock. Author Richard Rothstein says the housing programs begun under the New Deal were tantamount to a "state-sponsored system of segregation."

The government's efforts were "primarily designed to provide housing to white, middle-class, lower-middle-class families," he says. African-Americans and other people of color were left out of the new suburban communities — and pushed instead into urban housing projects.
https://www.npr.org/2017/05/03/52665...egated-america
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Old 04-14-2021, 04:34 AM
 
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^Isn't this just from information provided by the police agency? You probably think that every single police report out there is 100% true, every time. Sure, most of the time cops are honest on police reports because they have no reason to lie. However, if telling the truth can cause them to lose their job or get put in prison, many will tell lies. That's not just police, that is people in general.
Who are you trying to kid? It is the County Attorney report into the incident. No one has ever alleged that she was involved, let alone that she instructed officers to turn off their cameras so that she could execute the man.

She wasn't even there.

So again, why do you choose to lie?

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Old 04-14-2021, 04:36 AM
 
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Sure, we can go there but then we have to go into why!

You can't redline the entire nation, putting blacks in ghettos, and then go OMG, they commit more crime, mercy me what is it with these people?

Like the zip code was cursed from its creation. Jeez. Nobody “put” blacks in designated ghettos. These neighborhoods are often prime real estate with beautiful stately buildings. They were gorgeous well maintained safe areas when blacks began moving in. It becomes a ghetto when black chaos and crime bring the area to a point where insurance companies *must* redline them because of all the craziness that goes on there. Whites move out because the level of crime and chaos is simply something we will not put up with.
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Old 04-14-2021, 04:36 AM
 
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So go into the why.

Doesn't change the fact I pointed out.
Facts lacking context are often meaningless.

Blacks and white use drugs equally as often, but blacks are disproportionately pulled over, illegally searched, charged and convicted.

It is impossible for that to occur any way other then discrimination.

In fact police are more often to find drugs when searching white cars, so if their motive was to arrest more drug users, they are very bad at profiling.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ite-drivers-2/

Blacks are not involving themselves more with police than whites.

Police are involving themselves more with blacks.
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Old 04-14-2021, 04:39 AM
 
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Like the zip code was cursed from its creation. Jeez. Nobody “put” blacks in designated ghettos. These neighborhoods are often prime real estate with beautiful stately buildings. They were gorgeous well maintained safe areas when blacks began moving in. It becomes a ghetto when black chaos and crime bring the area to a point where insurance companies must redline them because of all the craziness that goes on there. Whites move out because the level of crime and chaos is simply not something we will put up with.
The government redlined them first. Not the way you are trying to make it seem.

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...the Federal Housing Administration, which was established in 1934, furthered the segregation efforts by refusing to insure mortgages in and near African-American neighborhoods — a policy known as "redlining." At the same time, the FHA was subsidizing builders who were mass-producing entire subdivisions for whites — with the requirement that none of the homes be sold to African-Americans.
https://www.npr.org/2017/05/03/52665...egated-america
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Old 04-14-2021, 04:42 AM
 
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Sure, we can go there but then we have to go into why!

You can't redline the entire nation, putting blacks in ghettos, and then go OMG, they commit more crime, mercy me what is it with these people?

Redlining generations ago causes black people to commit crimes today? Is this seriously a thing that liberals say to each other now?
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Old 04-14-2021, 04:43 AM
 
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The government redlined them first. Not the way you are trying to make it seem.



https://www.npr.org/2017/05/03/52665...egated-america
So they were redlined when white people still lived there? Ok, then redlining in not a racist scheme to keep black people down. Can’t have it both ways. And neither can NPR.
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Old 04-14-2021, 04:43 AM
 
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The term "redlining" ... comes from the development by the New Deal, by the federal government of maps of every metropolitan area in the country. And those maps were color-coded by first the Home Owners Loan Corp. and then the Federal Housing Administration and then adopted by the Veterans Administration, and these color codes were designed to indicate where it was safe to insure mortgages. And anywhere where African-Americans lived, anywhere where African-Americans lived nearby were colored red to indicate to appraisers that these neighborhoods were too risky to insure mortgages.
https://www.npr.org/2017/05/03/52665...egated-america
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Old 04-14-2021, 04:46 AM
 
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So they were redlined when white people still lived there? Ok, then redlining in not a racist scheme to keep black people down. Can’t have it both ways.
You misunderstand what redlining is. The term originated with the USG redlining the entire country.

They were intentionally segregating the entire country.

If the neighborhood is risky as you say, then there should have been no issue with an AA getting insurance for their proposed home in a white neighborhood right?

But they were not allowed to.

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The Federal Housing Administration's justification was that if African-Americans bought homes in these suburbs, or even if they bought homes near these suburbs, the property values of the homes they were insuring, the white homes they were insuring, would decline. And therefore their loans would be at risk.

There was no basis for this claim on the part of the Federal Housing Administration. In fact, when African-Americans tried to buy homes in all-white neighborhoods or in mostly white neighborhoods, property values rose because African-Americans were more willing to pay more for properties than whites were, simply because their housing supply was so restricted and they had so many fewer choices. So the rationale that the Federal Housing Administration used was never based on any kind of study. It was never based on any reality.
https://www.npr.org/2017/05/03/52665...egated-america
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