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Old 01-14-2022, 12:33 PM
 
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Do you mean it's OK for them to be unable to move the army around in their own country.

I was just going to say "let's go Brandon." But more seriously the people themselves in Kabul and the rest of Afghanistan hate us. I don't think any President could lead a pitched-battle victory unless we did a repeat of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Ain't going to happen over that area.

I don't care about the sentimental tears of the Left.

I personally think that it's not only "not OK," but the so-called "country" needs to be split into two parts ( at least,), along the border that was clearly outlined during the "Maidan" - the so-called "people's revolution" in Kiev.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ests-map-k.jpg
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Old 01-14-2022, 12:52 PM
 
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We did such a bang up job as colonial master of Puerto Rico and the Philippines, so sure we could do wonders with Cuba and Venezuela. Stupid is as stupid does. Sometimes better to sit on your hands and keep your checkbook in your pocket. We didnt learn dang thing from Vietnam except not to draft people to serve in such stupid wars cause the rabble gets upset after war goes on over a decade. Afghanistan was Vietnam part deux. Even down to the hurried way we evacuated when we lost.
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Old 01-14-2022, 02:03 PM
 
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I personally think that it's not only "not OK," but the so-called "country" needs to be split into two parts ( at least,), along the border that was clearly outlined during the "Maidan" - the so-called "people's revolution" in Kiev.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ests-map-k.jpg

Here it is again, in even more explicit terms; ( going back to 2014)


https://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99...1393865032.jpg


"By Richard Connolly, University of Birmingham
It is increasingly difficult to predict what the future holds for Ukraine. One scenario sees the country becoming divided along roughly ethnic lines, with an ethnic Ukrainian western state and a more Russia-oriented eastern state comprising today’s southern and eastern Ukraine. So what would the economies of these potential new states look like?"


https://www.sbs.com.au/news/comment-...-states-emerge


So THIS is the truth about so-called "Ukraine" and its "European-oriented population, that voted for "bla-bla-blah"


And by now we already know what happened to "Ukraine."
After the democratically-elected president ( as corrupt as he was,) was deposed with the help of of the US gov., and the South-Eastern population that didn't have ANYTHING to do with this coup d'etat in Kiev was forced out of the country/murdered/oppressed, and American/British military bases started moving in "free and democratic" Ukraine - only now Putin and Co woke up and realized that NOT helping their own in the timely manner is rather costly in the long run.

And THAT's where we are now with the current military threats from Russia and why.

Bunch of crocksh*t if you ask me - this whole situation.
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Old 01-14-2022, 03:37 PM
 
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biden will not do a thing!

He joined the neville chamberlain euro club... will issue a statement of indignation 6 months after Putin takes his first big bite of europe.

biden financed Putin's takeover of ukraine!!!!!!

obama/biden. clinton sold 20% of our uranium supply to putin.

Obama backed off his redline in syria because it displeased putin.

Putin is biden/obama HRC's partner. Obama biden even called their admin heads CZARS! a tribute to Putin!

thug who shot a NJ state trooper hold up in cuba. joanne chesimard!

biden will hold his breath until he turns blue, Putin knows it, china knows it, NK and Iran know it.... it is only the US media that tries to tell us different than what we see, a bumbling mentally diminished puppet of the socialists who doesn't even know where he is.

We are shark bait and its all biden's doing in cooperation with the media and his handlers.
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Old 01-14-2022, 03:46 PM
 
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Do you mean it's OK for them to be unable to move the army around in their own country?
I personally think that it's not only "not OK," but the so-called "country" needs to be split into two parts ( at least,), along the border that was clearly outlined during the "Maidan" - the so-called "people's revolution" in Kiev.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ests-map-k.jpg
That would solve the problems between Putin and Ukraine as much as did the Munich Accords of 1938 solved the issues involving Czechoslovaki between Hitler and Chamberlain did.
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Old 01-14-2022, 03:47 PM
 
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Why would we even want Cuba and Venezuela? We already have Chicago and Detroit.
Hahahaha you win the Internet for today. Good one!!!
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Old 01-14-2022, 04:01 PM
 
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Why wouldn't Biden print $2 trillion and send them to the Ukraine, so every Ukrainian would get a stimulus check every month thanking American taxpayers?

Russians would see that and vote for a pro-American politician.
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Next year, he would print $2 trillion more and send to Taiwan.
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Old 01-14-2022, 04:09 PM
 
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That would solve the problems between Putin and Ukraine as much as did the Munich Accords of 1938 solved the issues involving Czechoslovaki between Hitler and Chamberlain did.

Conveniently forgetting Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia. There was no Ukraine the nation in history. it was always a province and a borderland. Given that its the largest country in Europe, and its an abysmal failure, I would say a divorce is in order. Western Ukraine and Eastern Ukraine particularly Crimea really have no common history. Its another one of those half baked nations that always fall into instability.
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Old 01-14-2022, 04:12 PM
 
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That would solve the problems between Putin and Ukraine as much as did the Munich Accords of 1938 solved the issues involving Czechoslovaki between Hitler and Chamberlain did.

You have NO proofs, none whatsoever - just pure speculations based on nothingness.

I'll explain to you why.
Hitler had far-going plans with his racial theories - who should live and where, and who shouldn't live at all.

So his takeover of Chechoslovakia was a prelude to exactly that.

Putin's failure to protect the Russian-speaking population of the former Russian territories from the Ukrainian nationalists backed by the West, was his miscalculation in initial desire to cooperate with the West.



Next please.
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Old 01-14-2022, 04:19 PM
 
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Why wouldn't Biden print $2 trillion and send them to the Ukraine, so every Ukrainian would get a stimulus check every month thanking American taxpayers?

Forget this - why wouldn't Americans send the Ukrainians at least affordable LNG, so that they'd be able to stay warm at least and not to worry about their next bill coming in?


How about not depriving them of the health care, and other necessities in the name of the "market reforms"?

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Russians would see that and vote for a pro-American politician.
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Exactly!)))

But what the Russians are observing so far in Ukraine, is quite the opposite.

It's much closer to what they saw in THEIR OWN COUNTRY under the US-inspired "economic reforms."
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