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I plan on voting for a candidate that I actually believe in as oppossed to a party. I plan on supporting grass roots political movements to hopefully beget change (not the catchy campaign slogan, but actual change in the political process), I plan on raising my children to question authority and to think for themselves. Am I tilting at windmills? Possibly. But if I end up on a fast train to hell, at least I knew I tried.
And I apologize if it seems I was picking on you ---- yours was the last of a series of 'they did it' and 'but they are worse' type posts, and I reacted.
No worries The great Uniter has become the great Divider. I don't think things have ever been like this before. However, the stakes are so high so I guess I can understand why people are digging their heels in on both sides of the isle. I think people are really afraid more than anything, and it is a shame we are so divided. People use words like blue, red, left, right and semantics can be somewhat limiting. BTW, I would have been very happy if Ron Paul had become our president.
No worries The great Uniter has become the great Divider. I don't think things have ever been like this before. However, the stakes are so high so I guess I can understand why people are digging their heels in on both sides of the isle. I think people are really afraid more than anything, and it is a shame we are so divided. People use words like blue, red, left, right and semantics can be somewhat limiting. BTW, I would have been very happy if Ron Paul had become our president.
I know what you mean....if people would actually listen to one another and not their soundbites, they would realize we all have a lot more in common politically then some would have us believe.
As far as Ron Paul --- he will get my vote, tilting at windmills or not
The Nazi Socialist German Workers Party is similar to todays democrats. Both being socialist to begin with. One of the 1st things Hitler did was to disarm his citizenry, again a staple in the Democrat party platform. He also quashed dissent, one might argue that political correctness, a staple of liberal groupthink is following in Hitlers footsteps. Don't agree with abortion? Liberal groupthink labels you as anti-woman, anti-choice. Against affirmative action? Liberal groupthink immediately labels you as a intolerant racist bigot. Question Darwin and are even remotely open to the idea of intelligent design? Well, you're a right-wing, Bible thumping neo-con who is in desperate need of some "elightenment". Don't agree with gay marriage or the homosexual lifestyle? Don't look now but more then one liberal democrat in both the house and senate have proposed bills/laws banning your opinion as "hate speech".
So to answer the op; yes there are quite a few parallels to the Nazi Socialist German Workers Party, but not how you think.
P.S the Berlin wall was built to keep people in. Any proposed border fence would be to keep people out. Big Difference.
My God, how wrong can one person be in his/her understanding? Fascism is a totalitarianism born of the RIGHT WING, fella. Don't let the name of the party fool you. Check it out. Hitler didn't throw the conservatives in his prison camps, but rather the homosexuals, the liberal intellectuals, and the Communists.
I know what you mean....if people would actually listen to one another and not their soundbites, they would realize we all have a lot more in common politically then some would have us believe.
As far as Ron Paul --- he will get my vote, tilting at windmills or not
Sorry, you are tilting at windmills. I just cannot waste my vote. We need change or at least hope of change to stop what is in its tracks. All I know is I don't want McBush. I've been fond of Ron Paul and have wished he would run and become president for three or four years now, but it ain't gonna happen.
My God, how wrong can one person be in his/her understanding? Fascism is a totalitarianism born of the RIGHT WING, fella. Don't let the name of the party fool you. Check it out. Hitler didn't throw the conservatives in his prison camps, but rather the homosexuals, the liberal intellectuals, and the Communists.
Fascism, as defined by Mussolini himself:
Anti-individualistic, the fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only insofar as his interests coincide with those of the State, which stands for the conscience and the universal will of man as a historic entity.... The fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value.... Fascism is therefore opposed to that form of democracy which equates a nation to the majority, lowering it to the level of the largest number.... We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the 'right', a Fascist century. If the nineteenth century was the century of the individual we are free to believe that this is the 'collective' century, and therefore the century of the State.
Minus a few vernacular tweaks for modern parlance this sounds just like the platform for todays democrat party. Honestly.
I imagine the Germans knew a lot of what we know, although they did not have the benefit of hindsight nor the instantaneous communications that we do. Are you planning anything for when the time, if the time, comes?
Well as to what can we do before it happens,stop voting in the same type of people(statists) no matter what the party would help...
But too many are caught up in the 'R' and 'D' thing to think outside the box.
As to plans,one plan is to simply drop out of society,it isn't for everyone as so many modern day people cannot exist without their every whim being fulfilled but it is possible.
And of course you can emigrate,thousands do it every year,it simply requires research and a will and a skill.
What most want is the same lifestyle as here but in another country,good luck on that.
The Republicans really are not much different than the Nazis. Always wrapping themselves in the flag and the Bible and saying anybody that dares question them is "unpatriotic".
Well as the Nazis did away with the German flag and replace dit with their own and were NOT Chrsitian there are a few small holes in your theory...
When the Republicans replace the US flag with their own and are no longer Christians you might have something.
Not really as most if not all of its security measures would face the wrong way...perhaps when the guard towers and machine guns are pointing inwards you might have a valid point.
And the polarizing forces have begun! "This regime" "neo cons" "dems"........are you people so wedded to a party that you cannot see that what is happening? Do you honestly believe that your blue/red politician is working for you and for our country rather than for themselves? Fools, the lot of you to waste time throwing sweeping generalizations against people who may not subscribe to your party.
Great post that will be lost on the party faithful...
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