Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 07-07-2022, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
25,693 posts, read 12,772,161 times
Reputation: 19266

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teleprompter View Post
Biden is encouraging states to be reckless. To promise bigger pensions than they are investing for, because they can just print money (inflation) at the national level.
besides printing money, they increases taxes...taxes have increased nearly every year of our lives, yet gov't still outspends the taxes it takes in, AND the money it prints, and STILL has a debt of $30.5T. It will lead to the DEATH OF OUR NATION, & here it is in a single chart:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Govern...ending_GDP.png

2018 chart that doesnt include trillions of stimulus spending, so the 2022 percent of GDP is ~50%....beyond the spike you see in the chart which was WW2 spending.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-07-2022, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Alaska
7,498 posts, read 5,747,274 times
Reputation: 4877
Quote:
Originally Posted by PullMyFinger View Post
Gotta cover for the incompetence and criminality of the Democratic run cities.
Perfectly said, rep point for you
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2022, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Alaska
7,498 posts, read 5,747,274 times
Reputation: 4877
Quote:
Originally Posted by moneill View Post
We already do.

And no President has ever changed it.

So Biden BAAAD.
Deflection?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2022, 09:04 AM
 
3,408 posts, read 1,901,534 times
Reputation: 3542
Quote:
Originally Posted by beach43ofus View Post
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...eans-will-work

This article focuses on Biden's proposal to use $1.9T in taxpayer $'s to prop up unsustainable pension plans in the private sector.

When the details emerge, I predict it will mostly bail out gov't pension plans...like Chicago, Illinois, Connecticut, New Jersey, for example.

Gov't pensions have been over-promised for decades, & are a massive Ponzi scheme.

Pensions in the private sector have become nearly extinct, so there's not many left to bail out, which is why I say the $'s will go to gov't pensions.

Either way, Biden want to force YOU to pay for other people's retirements...the people he chooses.

Nevermind the fact that ~60% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck & have 0$ saved for retirement.

If I'm right, & most of the ~$2T goes to gov't pensions, imagine what it will do to this 2018 chart:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Govern...ending_GDP.png

Pray that Manchin & Sinema will stand firm against this too.
I pray with you!! Giving FREE stuff to others, PAID for by hard-working American taxpayers, is the Democrat way!! That way everyone benefits, whether they contribute to the pot, or not. (Communism?) Americans voted (WINK! WINK!) and got exactly what they asked for!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2022, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Boston
20,099 posts, read 8,998,912 times
Reputation: 18747
Quote:
Originally Posted by beach43ofus View Post
I know a retired NJ Librarian who get an enormous pension, and yes, she is a multi-millionaire.

I know 2 couples that were all teachers from up East, & their combined pensions are $100k+ per couple.

I know a retired (at 52 yrs old!) NJ police chief whose pension is almost $100k, & he just sold his Florida home for $1.3M.

My Grandfather was a retire Brooklyn fire fighter, and he made a LOT more in pension payments, than he ever made working, due to cost of living escalaters. He retired at 50, lived to 92, 42 years of pension payments after 30 years of working.

Anecdotal, but there are millions out there like these people I know. Gov't pensions are unsustainable, & all you have to do is look to the private sector for proof.
My fed pension is more than $10K a month and my wife has a state pension and collects SS. Life is good.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2022, 09:24 AM
 
4,653 posts, read 1,947,611 times
Reputation: 4624
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristinas_Cap View Post
the path to being a millionaire and having a sizable pension payment is to become a New Jersey cop or teacher.
Now thats a fact. I think of a wealthy relative who lives in a expensive continual care community in that area of the country. It cost a million in advance to get in plus 5k a month. When he first went in he was shocked how many ex teachers were residents with him.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2022, 09:36 AM
 
9,501 posts, read 4,332,846 times
Reputation: 10546
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uconn97 View Post
Yes - I know so many millionaire teachers that have retired out there
Using the 4% rule for retirement savings, one would require $1,000,000 in savings when they retire to produce $40K per year income. I know plenty of teachers with pensions greater than $40K per year - the equivalent of having more than $1,000,000 in savings. So yes, there are many millionaire retired teachers.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2022, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Barrington
63,919 posts, read 46,713,615 times
Reputation: 20674
Quote:
Originally Posted by beach43ofus View Post
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...eans-will-work

This article focuses on Biden's proposal to use $1.9T in taxpayer $'s to prop up unsustainable pension plans in the private sector.

When the details emerge, I predict it will mostly bail out gov't pension plans...like Chicago, Illinois, Connecticut, New Jersey, for example.

Gov't pensions have been over-promised for decades, & are a massive Ponzi scheme.

Pensions in the private sector have become nearly extinct, so there's not many left to bail out, which is why I say the $'s will go to gov't pensions.

Either way, Biden want to force YOU to pay for other people's retirements...the people he chooses.

Nevermind the fact that ~60% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck & have 0$ saved for retirement.

If I'm right, & most of the ~$2T goes to gov't pensions, imagine what it will do to this 2018 chart:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Govern...ending_GDP.png

Pray that Manchin & Sinema will stand firm against this too.
It’s a curious thing that some people incorrectly infer and then take to social media to spread misinformation.

The intention is to prop up the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp ( PBGC) which insures single and multi- employer PRIVATE SECTOR pensions.

PBGC was initiated by a Republican Senator, approved in Congress and President Ford signed it into law, in 1974. PBGC is a federal agency created under ERISA and generally insures defined benefit plans.

As I understand it, PBGC has long been projected to be unable to pay out claims beginning in 2026 because funding formulas have been diluted over the years and employer premiums into the guaranty fund have not been adequate.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2022, 09:39 AM
Status: "Let this year be over..." (set 16 days ago)
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
19,219 posts, read 17,078,565 times
Reputation: 15537
These states and unions need to fund their own rescue plan it is not the Federal Governments place to support what amounts to a giant Ponzi Scheme.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2022, 09:41 AM
 
23,968 posts, read 15,063,270 times
Reputation: 12938
IMO, the 'consultants' called in by every city council and county commissioners court needs to make up the shortfall. Each and every government that funds pensions always call in consultants who tell them the economy will always grow 8-10% a year so those pension increases will be funded.

They all do it. And every 5-10 some city or town is going bankrupt due to unfunded pensions for cops and firefighters.

A cop in my neighborhood got fired for getting caught in soliciting prostitution sting operation in a neighboring county. He is on full salary for the 15 more years until he can take his pension. It will probably be more than the salary because the cops overtime is calculated into their pension figures..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top