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Old 07-07-2022, 02:45 PM
 
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I was wondering what the EXACT position on abortion was the Republican one.

And there is no question of 'do you support THE Republican position.....(the implies one -- not the myriad of positions taken by the Republican party) question anywhere.

Of the people polle 72% do support abortions up to 15 weeks.

Haven't most Republican states implemented a ban on all abortions?

So what is the position......a ban or up to 15 weeks. Can't be both.
The official position is to let the states decide for themselves. Some will have bans, some will have 15 weeks.
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Old 07-07-2022, 02:51 PM
 
Location: The Piedmont of North Carolina
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The official position is to let the states decide for themselves. Some will have bans, some will have 15 weeks.
Yep! And, this position is more in concordance than the Democratic Party's position, which is unrestricted abortion, as evidence by the support of forty-six Democratic Senators. This is what the Republican Party needs to include in their campaign ads in certain areas.
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Old 07-08-2022, 06:32 AM
 
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Abortions with limits is NOT the Republican position! For heaven's sake. The Republican position is NO abortions except (and there is not even universal agreement on this) to save the life of the mother. No exception for rape or incest. The 15 week was a trial balloon and is being ditched in every state including MS where it originated now that the Republican Court has given them more than they asked for.

The Democrat position is the polar opposite, of course. As usual, most Americans are in the middle supporting abortion with limits. That position is way, way, way closer to the Dems position than the absolute prohibition Republicans are peddling this election year.
" The Republican position is NO abortions except.."
Huh, I don't recall you asking me what I though before making your claim.

So STOP making claims you CANNOT back up.

"Thinking you know everything doe NOT mean you actually do!
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Old 07-08-2022, 06:34 AM
 
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Who cares. The majority of the states with the highest abortion rates are blue states, which will undoubtedly allow unrestricted abortion, probably right up to the point of labor.
The best way to keep there population down.
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Old 07-08-2022, 06:37 AM
 
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I was wondering what the EXACT position on abortion was the Republican one.

And there is no question of 'do you support THE Republican position.....(the implies one -- not the myriad of positions taken by the Republican party) question anywhere.

Of the people polle 72% do support abortions up to 15 weeks.

Haven't most Republican states implemented a ban on all abortions?

So what is the position......a ban or up to 15 weeks. Can't be both.
"I was wondering what the EXACT position on abortion was the Republican one."

Repubs are no different then dems when it comes to positions.

Some support , some don't.

Some support different variations.

There is NO "1 size fits all"!
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Old 07-08-2022, 07:13 AM
 
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"According To Polling, The Republican Position On Abortion Is Most In Line With The Average American"

According to the poll %55 oppose SCOTUS overturning Rowe Vs Wade: (Page 40 of 51)

The article has fallacies in it:

The article says 49% support abortion ban after 6 weeks the actual figure is 12% (page 41 of 51). 37% believe it should be only in cases of rape and incest, you can't add them in.

The article says 72% support an abortion ban after 15 weeks again its only 23% (page 41 of 51). 37% oppose abortion except in the case of rape or incest and the question is too broad a spread. But its 84% GOP voters that favor this limit versus 60%/70% Dem/Ind that do.

Of course its pretty obvious the right leaning bias in the article so their conclusions are no surprise.
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Old 07-08-2022, 07:16 AM
 
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Abortion is an ugly, nasty, immoral, disgusting thing, and the only thing worse that allowing a woman to have one is to not allow that woman to have one.

Imagine the life of a child whose mother wanted to kill it before it was born.
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Old 07-08-2022, 07:40 AM
 
Location: The Piedmont of North Carolina
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"According To Polling, The Republican Position On Abortion Is Most In Line With The Average American"

According to the poll %55 oppose SCOTUS overturning Rowe Vs Wade: (Page 40 of 51)

The article has fallacies in it:

The article says 49% support abortion ban after 6 weeks the actual figure is 12% (page 41 of 51). 37% believe it should be only in cases of rape and incest, you can't add them in.

The article says 72% support an abortion ban after 15 weeks again its only 23% (page 41 of 51). 37% oppose abortion except in the case of rape or incest and the question is too broad a spread. But its 84% GOP voters that favor this limit versus 60%/70% Dem/Ind that do.

Of course its pretty obvious the right leaning bias in the article so their conclusions are no surprise.
The average American supports limits on abortion. The Democratic Party does not, therefore, they are out of touch with mainstream Americans.

Forty-six Democratic United States Senators voted in favor of a bill that placed no limits on abortion. The mainstream Democratic sentiment is what only ten percent of Americans favor. This means that Americans agree with the Republican Party, by a long shot, on this particular issue.

And, while fifty-five percent of Americans oppose overturning Roe V Wade, only twenty-five percent want the Supreme Court to decide abortion law, which is illogical on many counts.
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Old 07-08-2022, 07:45 AM
 
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Abortions with limits is NOT the Republican position! For heaven's sake. The Republican position is NO abortions except (and there is not even universal agreement on this) to save the life of the mother. No exception for rape or incest. The 15 week was a trial balloon and is being ditched in every state including MS where it originated now that the Republican Court has given them more than they asked for.

The Democrat position is the polar opposite, of course. As usual, most Americans are in the middle supporting abortion with limits. That position is way, way, way closer to the Dems position than the absolute prohibition Republicans are peddling this election year.
That is not the Republican position (no abortions except to save the life of the mother). The op showed otherwise.

I bet that the small group that supports no abortion is Republican but that does not make it the Republican position just like, I bet most who support no limits on abortion are Dems but it is not the Dem position.

Most of us are in the middle. There is more agreement than disagreement across political affiliations.
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Old 07-08-2022, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Austin
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You see to me this shows how uncompromisingly radical the left is on this issue. Even most Republicans agree that 15 weeks or thereabouts is reasonable. This issue would be done. History. We'd never be talking about it at all if the left was not so obstinately determined to call it a trampling of women's rights as long as there are any limits on abortion. They have made late term abortion, i.e. infanticide the hill they're ready to die on. It's obscene what they want, really. They're a death cult and they call it freedom. They glorify the termination of a being as a success ... a win. Without the extremists on both sides abortion with a reasonable time limit would be a done deal agreed upon by the vast majority of moderate Americans.
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