Biden In Israel The Wolf At The Door (arsenal, weapon, regime)

[jbgusa]

Originally Posted by Leo58

I don’t think Israel needs our help to defend itself. They seem to do alright by themselves.

Yet we make them do it with one hand or both hands tied behind their back, i.e. the response should be "proportional."

[Goodnight]

Israel doesn't want a unclear arms deal with Iran but they are the first to complain when they continue to escalate towards development. I guess picking off a nuclear scientist once in awhile is what passes as a cohesive strategy.

They got Trump to back out of the Iran deal and they have been complaining ever since, so what does Israel propose, have the US invade Iran?

[jbgusa]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

Israel doesn't want a unclear arms deal with Iran but they are the first to complain when they continue to escalate towards development. I guess picking off a nuclear scientist once in awhile is what passes as a cohesive strategy.

They got Trump to back out of the Iran deal and they have been complaining ever since, so what does Israel propose, have the US invade Iran?

What do you think we should do, give the mad mullahs nukes and hope they play nice?

[uggabugga]

it's an utter cringefest every time this vegetable opens his mouth.

Speaking moments after he landed in Israel on Air Force One, Biden spoke about his plan to go to the “hallowed ground” of the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem later in the day.

“I will once more return to the hallowed ground of Yad Vashem to honor the 6 million Jewish lives that were stolen in a genocide and continue — which we must do every, every day — continue to bear witness, to keep alive the truth and honor of the Holocaust,” the blunder-prone president said, before correcting himself to say “horror of the Holocaust.”

[FC76-81]

Originally Posted by uggabugga

it's an utter cringefest every time this vegetable opens his mouth.

Brandon needs to come with a warning label.

[andywire]

There was a thread about this yesterday, but a gaffe this bad deserves a few...

[Kibby]

Originally Posted by Grlzrl

He tried to shake hands with air again.

Biden shook hands with Netanyahu (+a hug) & with the Israeli Defense Minister.
He lost his excuse headed for Saudi Arabia.

Originally Posted by Goodnight

Israel doesn't want a unclear arms deal with Iran but they are the first to complain when they continue to escalate towards development. I guess picking off a nuclear scientist once in awhile is what passes as a cohesive strategy.

They got Trump to back out of the Iran deal and they have been complaining ever since, so what does Israel propose, have the US invade Iran?

He didn’t promise an invasion of Iran, more some big Bombs - just a couple of paragraphs of this Declaration…..
Of course old Joe didn’t say HOW he was going to enforce that “NEVER allow” part.
Maybe he thinks this Declaration will stop Iran.
The Jerusalem U.S.-Israel Strategic Partnership Joint Declaration - White House 7/14/2022

Consistent with the longstanding security relationship between the United States and Israel and the unshakeable U.S. commitment to Israel’s security, and especially to the maintenance of its qualitative military edge, the United States reiterates its steadfast commitment to preserve and strengthen Israel’s capability to deter its enemies and to defend itself by itself against any threat or combination of threats. The United States further reiterates that these commitments are bipartisan and sacrosanct, and that they are not only moral commitments, but also strategic commitments that are vitally important to the national security of the United States itself.

The United States stresses that integral to this pledge is the commitment never to allow Iran to acquire a nuclear weapon, and that it is prepared to use all elements of its national power to ensure that outcome. The United States further affirms the commitment to work together with other partners to confront Iran’s aggression and destabilizing activities, whether advanced directly or through proxies and terrorist organizations such as Hezbollah, Hamas, and Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

And of course Billions of $$$ in weapons.

[VLWH]

Did Biden bring any family members on the trip or is he going to have to shower alone.

[Goodnight]

Originally Posted by jbgusa

What do you think we should do, give the mad mullahs nukes and hope they play nice?

Originally Posted by Kibby

Biden shook hands with Netanyahu (+a hug) & with the Israeli Defense Minister.
He lost his excuse headed for Saudi Arabia.



He didn’t promise an invasion of Iran, more some big Bombs - just a couple of paragraphs of this Declaration…..
Of course old Joe didn’t say HOW he was going to enforce that “NEVER allow” part.
Maybe he thinks this Declaration will stop Iran.
The Jerusalem U.S.-Israel Strategic Partnership Joint Declaration - White House 7/14/2022

Consistent with the longstanding security relationship between the United States and Israel and the unshakeable U.S. commitment to Israel’s security, and especially to the maintenance of its qualitative military edge, the United States reiterates its steadfast commitment to preserve and strengthen Israel’s capability to deter its enemies and to defend itself by itself against any threat or combination of threats. The United States further reiterates that these commitments are bipartisan and sacrosanct, and that they are not only moral commitments, but also strategic commitments that are vitally important to the national security of the United States itself.

The United States stresses that integral to this pledge is the commitment never to allow Iran to acquire a nuclear weapon, and that it is prepared to use all elements of its national power to ensure that outcome. The United States further affirms the commitment to work together with other partners to confront Iran’s aggression and destabilizing activities, whether advanced directly or through proxies and terrorist organizations such as Hezbollah, Hamas, and Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

And of course Billions of $$$ in weapons.

My point is that Israel didn't like the deal but never offered any other solution.

[spectator11040]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

My point is that Israel didn't like the deal but never offered any other solution.

Israel has said that it does NOT oppose a nuclear agreement with the Iranian regime if it effectively blocks the regime from developing a nuclear weapon and the means to deliver it.

They specifically pointed out the following problems with the negotiations and agreement:

• Inspection provisions are grossly inadequate, particularly since inspection of military facilities are off limits.
• The limitations on enrichment of uranium were not adequate.
• They were temporary – some expiring as early as 2024.
• The agreement did not shut down any nuclear facility or require the destruction of any centrifuge.
• The agreement permitted Iran to continue with its research and development including the authorization for the development of more advance centrifuges.
• There was no provision in the JCPOA limiting Iran’s ability to develop its ballistic missile program and it has continued to do so, with nuke-capable warheads.
  
• The agreement does not address Iran’s efforts seeking regional hegemony and supporting terrorist activity in Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, and Yemen.

The solution that Israel supports is a good agreement, not one with a multitude of gaping holes.