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Old 07-17-2022, 12:36 PM
 
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I guess the average employer family health care premium of $22,000 a year and on then another 1.5 trillion dollars a year in government subsidies is just not enough to stabilize the system?

Interesting, that an employer and their employee pay on average pays $22,000 a year and then another the government subsidizes another 1.5 trillion dollars and then are told by the hospital that they have to wait 12 to 24 hours for a hospital bed outside of the Emergency Room because they must pay there many administrators millions of dollars per year.
There is no easy or cheap solution to accommodate the vast needs and changes related to Covid. They could have built more/excess beds and hired more/excess staff before Covid hit. But that is not going to fly with many hospitals or locales.
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Old 07-17-2022, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Your doctor may admit you as hospital observation care instead of inpatient care and this can affect how Medicare pays your claims. That's because Medicare Part A and Part B treat different types of hospital care differently. Part A provides hospital insurance; it covers care when the hospital admits you as an inpatient.

Over-classification of observation care is rampant. According to statistics from the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission published by Kaiser Health News, the number of observation patients increased nearly 90% through 2012, surpassing 1.8 million patients nationally, while hospital admissions under Medicare remained virtually unchanged.
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Old 07-17-2022, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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What excuse are the "medical facilities" going to use when there is FLU and COVID this winter for not being stable.

Interesting, how they have people waiting 12 to 24 hours for a hospital bed according to the news story while executives at this "non-profit" hospital are getting millions of dollars yearly in compensation packages.

Wow, just one hospital and so paychecks in the millions and yet they just can't stabilize it.

These hospitals are intentionally doing this because the CEO's are welfare queens looking for government handouts.

https://nonprofitlight.com/ca/la/ced...medical-center
It is not the lack of dollars that causes one to wait for a hospital bed. It is the lack of staff.

Even before COVID there was a lack of physicians. Various levels of nurses have picked up the slack in many areas. Then COVID caused burnout among many healthcare providers and they quit. They are not coming back.

The problem is not enough healthcare staff.
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Old 07-17-2022, 03:05 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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It is not the lack of dollars that causes one to wait for a hospital bed. It is the lack of staff.

Even before COVID there was a lack of physicians. Various levels of nurses have picked up the slack in many areas. Then COVID caused burnout among many healthcare providers and they quit. They are not coming back.

The problem is not enough healthcare staff.
Just like not enough pilots.

Maybe they shouldn't have mandated that covid vaccine on them.
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Old 07-17-2022, 03:07 PM
 
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I think it is interesting how the medical establishment in the USA provides endless excuses.

Interesting how these seven-figure executives who gets tremendous amounts of government handouts for hospitals like this just say "oh well, it is what it is"

Maybe they should use some of that billion dollars after their expenses as a "non-profit" hospital to invest in, so they have staffed beds available at all times.

The government gives more than enough money, much more than a vast majority of countries per-capita for their health care system.
The main problem is staffing you can have a hospital with 25,000 beds if you don't have the staff the patients is going to have to wait in the ER. New Jersey our useless governor passed a bill that every healthcare worker has to get the vaccine and every booster that comes out a lot of Healthcare staff left or retired leaving us short staffed.



If you go on Hospital websites you see pages and pages of jobs.
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Old 07-17-2022, 04:26 PM
 
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It is not the lack of dollars that causes one to wait for a hospital bed. It is the lack of staff.

Even before COVID there was a lack of physicians. Various levels of nurses have picked up the slack in many areas. Then COVID caused burnout among many healthcare providers and they quit. They are not coming back.

The problem is not enough healthcare staff.
Humm lack of Doctors - i wonder why? maybe because this state allows them to get sued at every turn and the malpractice insurance is so costly its not worth the years of schooling and then residency just to have a few ambulance chasing holes sue you.

I would not even consider any job in the heath care field until there is tort reform.
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Old 07-17-2022, 05:52 PM
 
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Just like not enough pilots.

Maybe they shouldn't have mandated that covid vaccine on them.
WAY different than the very direct Covid impacts on close in HC workers.

https://www.businessinsider.com/unit...andate-2021-12
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Old 07-17-2022, 05:58 PM
 
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Humm lack of Doctors - i wonder why? maybe because this state allows them to get sued at every turn and the malpractice insurance is so costly its not worth the years of schooling and then residency just to have a few ambulance chasing holes sue you.

I would not even consider any job in the heath care field until there is tort reform.
The financial impact of malpractice insurance is way over stated for most capable docs. Some fields like OB and neurosurgery the coverage is very expensive. And in some locales like Illinois and Dade county. But those are exceptions. As an internist in AZ I paid in the $12-14K range for many years before I retired. I didn't know a doc unduly burdened.
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Old 07-17-2022, 06:23 PM
 
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Do they feed them when they're in ER for a long time?

My dad went into a diabetic coma because they didn't bother feeding him.
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Old 07-18-2022, 01:11 AM
 
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There are countries where a DOCTOR visits her patients at home.
Cuba, for example.
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