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Old 08-02-2022, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Metro Seattle Area - Born and Raised
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
What is this idiotic drunkard trying to prove and why isnt she being stopped?
I agree with you Frank, but unfortunately, she wasn’t stopped way before this became an issue.

Pelosi put the entire country in a jam since it’s a damned if you do and damned if you don’t. In this situation, IMHO, Pelosi now needs to fly her goofy self into Taiwan. If she doesn’t, this would give China a massive propaganda win over the United States.

Also, if Biden ordered her not to fly to Taiwan, that would have been a massive strike-two for the United States… Right after Biden’s retreat from Afghanistan, which showed both China and Russia weakened within Biden’s administration. Biden’s weakness allowed the Russians to invade the Ukraine and if Biden folded up again, but this time in Asia, China, without question would be more aggressive towards Taiwan or to the other countries bordering in the South China Sea. Also, if Biden plunked out, I’d bet China would have sealed off most of the South China Sea and claim it as sovereign Chinese territory, which would require a direct American military response against Chinese forces blocking American shipping.

Pelosi knows she’s done come November, so she trying to get in her last government funded Asian vacation.

I just hope China doesn’t do anything stupid like attack Taiwan once Pelosi leaves since we would have to back the Taiwaneses up with our weakened and WOKEN military forces in combat operations. Sorry, I don’t have any faith in General Austin (Ret.) or General Milley…. Especially that Milley guy since I think he’d warn the Chinese of an impending military strike and putting American service men and women at risk. AND!! To make it worse, a brain dead president that isn’t capable of quick action with a capable opponent, like China…. Smoking a single Terrorist on your time schedule isn’t a huge task since time is on your side to strike. This would be very different than fighting China.

In the end, and for the next 5 to 10 years, we’d kick the sheet out of the Chinese since the fight would be mainly a sea and air battle within the South China Sea. China doesn’t want to draw in Japan, Britain, Australia, Vietnam and possibly France and India into this fight. China’s only capable allied is the Russians and they’re still tied down in the Ukraine and bleeding both men and equipment.

 
Old 08-02-2022, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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As much as I dislike pelosi and the democrats, I must say that China won't make decision based on who visits taiwan.

Like I said earlier, the Chinese government is extremely good at convincing the Chinese people that they have already won and they will always win.

The only reasons they have not invaded Taiwan are the following

A. It's not necessary to invade Taiwan
B. They don't have the ability to invade Taiwan

Nothing more/less
 
Old 08-02-2022, 09:08 AM
 
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CCP is all talk and no action.

They know that shooting down her plane would mean their leaders too are at risk should they travel out of China.

They are not stupid to risk doing that.
No but the Biden admin is stupid enough to let Pelosi go to Taiwan and increase tensions with another nuclear superpower
 
Old 08-02-2022, 09:11 AM
 
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WW 3 over Ukraine and Taiwan. What's the world coming to?
 
Old 08-02-2022, 09:12 AM
 
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Apparently she has already landed in Taiwan.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/02/polit...rip/index.html
 
Old 08-02-2022, 09:13 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Well, now that Pelosi went, should Trump or a high-ranking GOPer go next?
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Old 08-02-2022, 09:15 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981 View Post
As much as I dislike pelosi and the democrats, I must say that China won't make decision based on who visits taiwan.

Like I said earlier, the Chinese government is extremely good at convincing the Chinese people that they have already won and they will always win.

The only reasons they have not invaded Taiwan are the following

A. It's not necessary to invade Taiwan
B. They don't have the ability to invade Taiwan

Nothing more/less

I think the only reason is that they don't want to. The Chinese people are used to peace and don't like violence. Just like here in Europe, people support Ukraine morally and with money and arms, but they don't want to actually participate in that bloody mess. It is typical of modern urban societies. It is different in the US because of all the gun violence, people are used to it.

I don't think many people seriously expected China to shoot down an old woman's plane...

I think there might be other consequences, though...
 
Old 08-02-2022, 09:20 AM
 
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Well, now that Pelosi went, should Trump or a high-ranking GOPer go next?
Why ? There was no reason for Pelosi to go, why would there be a reason for a GOPer to go ?
 
Old 08-02-2022, 09:23 AM
 
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so she does everything in her power to fan the flames and escalate it....throw gas on the fire

“Our Congressional delegation’s visit to Taiwan honors America’s unwavering commitment to supporting Taiwan’s vibrant Democracy,” Pelosi said in a statement.

“Our discussions with Taiwan leadership will focus on reaffirming our support for our partner and on promoting our shared interests, including advancing a free and open Indo-Pacific region. America’s solidarity with the 23 million people of Taiwan is more important today than ever, as the world faces a choice between autocracy and democracy,” she added.

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2022/...ion-and-china/
 
Old 08-02-2022, 09:27 AM
 
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I wouldn't go. Ukraine and Russia is bad enough. What's the purpose of this? China and Taiwan is an internal dispute. We shouldn't go to war because of that.
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