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Old 07-28-2023, 07:39 AM
 
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I have a bigger house and property than most in Miami or any regular suburban neighborhood but I pay less in taxes dollar-wise

I assume you're talking about living in Ohio - I could be wrong there - but - if not...


You're exactly making my point. You have to consider your "bigger house and property" in the cost of living. Same mortgage - but more stuff. Your money goes farther in Ohio with regarding to housing and property than it does in Miami. If you choose to pay the SAME mortgage in Ohio as in FL - then you will, of course, pay more dollars of taxes.


BUT - if you buy the same SIZE and LOT of property in Cleveland - that you had in Miami - I'd expect the value (and thus the dollars of taxes) to be significantly less, even if the "percent" is more.



Meantime - I just got back from FL - certainly groceries aren't cheaper there.
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Old 07-28-2023, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Yeah, even with the higher real estate costs in WA. When we moved to OH our cost of living actually went up due to taxes. And the party supposedly for lower taxes is firmly in control here in OH with a state(and local!) income tax, high sales tax, ridiculously high property tax rates, and utility taxes.
Washington (state) extremely regressive tax protocol is very great for rich and high earners but sux for the middle and lower classes.
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Old 07-28-2023, 09:20 AM
 
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Washington (state) extremely regressive tax protocol is very great for rich and high earners but sux for the middle and lower classes.
Washington state was one of the first big destinations for Californians fleeing high tax CA in the 1990s, which pushed up the RE and the overall Cost of Living. Seattle used to be an affordable refuge for Californians.

Once WA became super expensive, then Californians went to Oregon, then Colorado, then Arizona/Nevada, and the last few years, ID, TX, UT and even Montana.
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Old 07-28-2023, 09:21 AM
 
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Washington (state) extremely regressive tax protocol is very great for rich and high earners but sux for the middle and lower classes.
Because of the sales tax focus with no income tax?

WA state sales tax is 6.5% and locals can add on up to 10.4%
OH is 5.75% and locals can add on up to 8%.

And that sales tax doesn't apply to food.

Not a huge difference especially considering OH also has multiple income taxes(state/local/school) and much higher property tax rates. Does 0.75% more sales tax make it extremely regressive?
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Old 07-28-2023, 09:24 AM
 
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Ohio average home price $218,667
Washington average home price $577,353
California average home price $743,362
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Old 07-28-2023, 11:11 AM
 
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Ohio average home price $218,667
Washington average home price $577,353
California average home price $743,362
Our new construction house in WA was $250k in 2016.
New construction house in OH was $360k in 2021, by the same builder for similar size/quality.
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Old 07-28-2023, 11:15 AM
 
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NH doesn't have an income tax and an average 2.05% property tax.
MA has an income tax and an average 1.1% property tax.

NH, the state without an income tax, has the third highest property tax rate in the country, behind NJ and IL.
MA has the lowest property tax rate in New England.
They used to cal NH "Taxachusetts". I see there is more to the equation.
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Old 07-28-2023, 11:23 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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My husband’s Nissan car registration is like $30 each year to renew. My passenger van is a lot heavier and costs more, like $115. Idk where the $225 is coming from. We don’t have emissions tests here, either, FWIW.

I beg to differ with the second para also as it’s highly dependent upon location, property size, etc.

TN is not totally income tax free as they tax dividends IIRC.
This was eliminated several years back.

I'm from a small city in northeast TN. Yes, we don't have a state income tax, but the sales tax is pushing 10% in most locales, and even basics like food are not exempted from it.

I'm an average person making with a (locally) upper middle class salary. I work remotely for a government out of state, so I pay state income taxes to that state. It's not that big of a deal.

For various reasons, I don't care for TN. A lack of income tax isn't enough to keep me here - the state has too many other drawbacks.
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Old 07-28-2023, 12:23 PM
 
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Yeah, even with the higher real estate costs in WA. When we moved to OH our cost of living actually went up due to taxes. And the party supposedly for lower taxes is firmly in control here in OH with a state(and local!) income tax, high sales tax, ridiculously high property tax rates, and utility taxes.

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Our new construction house in WA was $250k in 2016.
New construction house in OH was $360k in 2021, by the same builder for similar size/quality.

Well that explains why your Cost of Living is higher in OH than in WA!

You bought a more expensive home!



Also, you seem to have bought a home in Ohio in 2021 that is much higher than than the average Ohio home price in 2023 - while you lived in a WA home that was much lower than the average WA price.

This is why anecdotal examples are terrible.
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Old 07-28-2023, 12:32 PM
 
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Well that explains why your Cost of Living is higher in OH than in WA!

You bought a more expensive home!



Also, you seem to have bought a home in Ohio in 2021 that is much higher than than the average Ohio home price in 2023 - while you lived in a WA home that was much lower than the average WA price.

This is why anecdotal examples are terrible.
Our prior Ohio home before we moved to WA was $100k. Taxes on that were higher than the $250k WA house because the rate is so much higher in OH.
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