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Old 11-28-2023, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Beacon Falls
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It could end up "really bad" and Biden and his ilk would be lying to us and folding like weak fools while telling us that WE are the problem.



If this was happening under Trump it would be front page news.
Yes - b/c they'd be blaming Trump. In the meantime, I doubt this would have happened if Trump were POTUS.
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Old 11-28-2023, 01:45 PM
 
Location: a bar
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Yes - b/c they'd be blaming Trump. In the meantime, I doubt this would have happened if Trump were POTUS.
Iran launched numerous missile attacks against the US during the Trump presidency.

I recall two late in his term. One, the US embassy in Iraq was targeted, and another was a US Airforce base in Iraq.
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Old 11-28-2023, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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And our retaliation was ....? Looks like we had a good reason to knock out a launch site and some hardware, if nothing else.
Our retaliation requires a new POTUS. Right now we have Neville Chamberlain in charge, things don't look so good. Where's Winnie when we really need him?
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Old 11-28-2023, 02:11 PM
 
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Our retaliation requires a new POTUS. Right now we have Neville Chamberlain in charge, things don't look so good. Where's Winnie when we really need him?
Did you get upset when Trump didnt attack Iran?
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Old 11-28-2023, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Four Oaks
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Retaliation for what? Unguided missiles that landed 5 miles away?

I suspect it may have been an attempt to get the US to fire on them and then tout that "the US is attacking" to try to create more leverage with Middle Eastern countries etc.
What do you suggest? Waiting until a missile actually hits something?

Oh, wait, missiles already are hitting us bases. When does a big lesson come back at them? How much do we take? When do we get our hostages back?

Why the hell did Biden apologize for being a leader and condemning Hamas?
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Old 11-29-2023, 08:13 AM
 
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What do you suggest? Waiting until a missile actually hits something?

Oh, wait, missiles already are hitting us bases. When does a big lesson come back at them? How much do we take? When do we get our hostages back?
I suggest following navy doctrine as they are instructed in that area.

If you think that we haven't been hitting them directly or indirectly then I'd suggest you read up.

Did you miss this? There are proxy insurgent wars going on throughout the region and we are elbow deep.

https://apnews.com/article/iran-poli...c45d8c78196886
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Old 11-29-2023, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Yes - b/c they'd be blaming Trump. In the meantime, I doubt this would have happened if Trump were POTUS.

I'm not sure why people always make statements like "If X were president, this would never happen."

That shows very low level thinking. Other countries will do what they want to do.
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Old 11-29-2023, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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I get it that adding 'guidance' onboard a missile is a huge expense.

But shooting something akin to the Estes model rockets we launched when I was a teenager, and blindly hoping they 'hit' something just seems really stupid to me.

I have seen videos of Palestinians digging up their own municipal water lines to gain access to steel pipe from which they make their missiles. I have seen videos showing hundreds of those missiles being launched over the border into Israel. In the hope that one of them will randomly hit something of value.

Similarly launching an unguided missile over the horizon of the sea, hoping that a ship is over that horizon is equally as stupid.

Without any form of guidance system, there is no hope of these missiles actually hitting any specific target.

Since this is the level of technology we are looking at, it makes me wonder. Even if one of these missiles were to randomly hit a modern surface ship, what makes anyone think that they would have the design to be able to penetrate the armor of a ship?

I suspect that at best, such a detonation might shake the vessel and leave a black scorch mark on the side of the vessel.
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Old 11-29-2023, 10:20 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Rep. Kevin McCarthy: Houthis Was A Terrorist Organization Under Trump, Biden Lifted That In 2021

fact check: true
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Old 11-30-2023, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Why would Yemen do that? It's not like America is supplying the Saudis with weapons to commit genocide in Yemen. ... oh wait.
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