Truth About Fossil Fuels (suspect, radical, Levin, wisdom)
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The real geologists in the West as well as the OPEC states, the world's primary oil producers and consumers, know this is complete bunk. They have learned through experience that petroleum cannot be found anywhere close to the mantle. And as I have already stated - even if oil is generated abiotically, if the consumption rate exceeds the generation rate, the result is depletion. We have seen this many times with forests and trees.
do you understand what they are talking about?
the byproducts of hydrocarbon oxidation are two ultra rare chemical compounds known as H2O and CO2. You can, and we do, separate the oxygen and you can and we do synthesize* the hydrocarbon AND you can and we do synthesize* it to order...want an alkene? done. Alkane? done cycloalkane? (deadlier to mankind) we do it every day.
if we REALLY wanted to, could we produce these things on a scale that exceeds consumption? yep. Just pay for it. the point that zinged over heads was, the cost is such that OTHER energy forms become more attractive.
if we however someday determine that we need di-methyl methane in crap ton quantities and nothing else will do**, we will be just fine, as long as the planet is still here.
Organic Chemistry. Its whats for supper. (with apologies to Sam Elliot)
* = all this synthesizing going on, next you will tell me we can synthesize oil in various grades
** = if you wanna keep running your blackstone, you better get on this train
well, if the scientists have got anything right about our past, we have known for decades, in fact I first heard of it in the late 70s, that the fuels we have consumed THEN had exceeded the expected biomass of ALL 'animals' and 'plants' that should have been in existence - and this one is a hard one for most folks to wrap around, life, is MOSTLY water and the rest to decompose into short chain hydrocarbons (gas) or long chain (crude) gives like a teaspoon of each. Hardly a fill up.
hydro carbons DO exist in nature and the machinations of space. Neptune for example, who had few Trex and 'tri-cicloplotz' is laden with methane and other -anes, -enes etc.
AND, the predictions that would would run out were misplaced as well. Most scientists now assert that something is forming hydrocarbons NOW.
It appears to be gas under high pressure (miles underground) that may produce these liquid hydrocarbons.
Of course, this was always the more logical view, particularly as oil extraction technology advanced to the point of deep oil drilling, finding oil pools resting at 6,000 feet or deeper down, embedded in rock. This couldn’t possibly be explained as a product of dinosaur carcasses and vegetation decay occurring on the earth’s surface. We’ve been told this bio matter decay becomes petroleum, which then seeps down through 6,000 feet of rock, then collects in these gigantic lakes of oil? It’s a preposterous notion, and always has been, which isn’t remotely scientific. What it is is an incredible story that really makes no rational sense.
The con artists who weave these mainstream narratives that they feed to the masses, are pathological liars, and virtually everything they tell us is actually false.
Abiotic oil is a miniscule fraction of oil deposits.
The deposits of oil found under thousands of feet of rock are easily explained. Very little, if any, oil is formed from rotting dinosaurs or plants. Plant matter forms coal in large quantities, but not as much oil. The oil deposits you speak of are formed by biological material settling on the sea floor over millions of years. Those organic deposits get covered by sediments, and heat and pressure transform the organic material into oil and gas. The hydrocarbons will then migrate through the rock until trapped by some geologic feature that stops the migration.
There are no "lakes of oil". Oil is distributed through pores in rocks, especially sandstones. Some of those sandstone and limestone formations are 50% or more open space, and fluid fills up that space. The amount of open space is called porosity. This also applies to water aquifers. Here's a site with some good diagrams https://home.wgnhs.wisc.edu/water/wi...osity-density/
Abiotic oil is a miniscule fraction of oil deposits.
The deposits of oil found under thousands of feet of rock are easily explained. Very little, if any, oil is formed from rotting dinosaurs or plants. Plant matter forms coal in large quantities, but not as much oil. The oil deposits you speak of are formed by biological material settling on the sea floor over millions of years. Those organic deposits get covered by sediments, and heat and pressure transform the organic material into oil and gas. The hydrocarbons will then migrate through the rock until trapped by some geologic feature that stops the migration.
There are no "lakes of oil". Oil is distributed through pores in rocks, especially sandstones. Some of those sandstone and limestone formations are 50% or more open space, and fluid fills up that space. The amount of open space is called porosity. This also applies to water aquifers. Here's a site with some good diagrams https://home.wgnhs.wisc.edu/water/wi...osity-density/
First of all, you don’t know that, and it’s just hot air to make some claim about minuscule amounts of abiotic oil.
Secondly, “Lakes” of oil is simply a euphemism for pools, or fields, or reservoirs, which all describe a large volume of oil sequestered in pockets surrounded by impermeable rock. So, unless you reject the existence of massive oil fields containing billions of barrels of oil, then that is hot air also.
Thirdly, you have no idea what you are talking about, and wherever you got this nonsense about oil sourced from ocean floor sediment, you should have the basic common sense to immediately understand how ridiculous that is, based on the extreme depths of the oceans, which exceed the onshore oil reservoirs by 20,000 to 30,000 feet.
One of the big clues that oil emerges from inside the earth, as opposed to some process occurring on the surface and seeping down through thousands of feet of rock, is PRESSURE.
Last edited by GuyNTexas; 01-16-2024 at 11:19 AM..
yes it does. Its rather easy to do if your name is mobil, or british petroleum or shell et al.
in FACT, passing ethylene GAS into a Hydrogen (gas) stream is the easiest way they found to create.....(drumroll)....synthetic oil
what used to be an american company, Pennzoil:
Quote:
Pennzoil's full synthetic motor oil, unlike other synthetic motor oil, is created with natural gas as a starting material, which has fewer impurities than base oil derived from crude
<---and every word of that is true
didnt youse guys jump on the oil wars in the 90s and early 2000's, you remember, dino vs amsoil vs royal purple etc? arguments came to blows! its why BITOG (bob is the oil guy) was created. (not related at all to 'Bob Miller' - the retired Mobil petro expert who sadly died about 20 ago from cancer, but gave us VOLUMES of data on this - all of it still online)
Yes OP you're right, its a lie to call them fossil fuels. Anyone who also is making a claim to know where they come from is making a lie. The best guess is its organically created by the Earth or was pre-deposited during the formation. Fuels are the second most abundant source on Earth next to water, we will never run out for the next 1,000+ years.
"Peak Oil" is a scare tactic used by both environmentalist whackos and Big Oil. If Big Oil can convince people that its rare, people will pay more for it, kind of like diamonds.
Yes OP you're right, its a lie to call them fossil fuels. Anyone who also is making a claim to know where they come from is making a lie. The best guess is its organically created by the Earth or was pre-deposited during the formation. Fuels are the second most abundant source on Earth next to water, we will never run out for the next 1,000+ years.
"Peak Oil" is a scare tactic used by both environmentalist whackos and Big Oil. If Big Oil can convince people that its rare, people will pay more for it, kind of like diamonds.
Exactly. The most plausible hypothesis is some combination of heat, pressure, and electromagnetic energy converting chemicals from the earth’s mantle into petroleum, with natural gas pressures forcing that petroleum through more porous rock in the crust, until being trapped in pockets surrounded by less porous sealing rock.
They have been lying to us for decades. I don’t believe they were just wrong. No, they did this purposefully.
Green energy is a joke.
What else have they lied about?
Well, someone doesn't want us to see it because it's gone.
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