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Did you even read your article, OP? It was "likely consensual", but was an extramarital sexual encounter that HE RECORDED WITHOUT THE WOMAN'S CONSENT.
Just no. Goodbye.
However, kudos to his wife, who truly has attempted to fall on the sword for him, claiming they had a 3some a couple years ago that she "backed out of", so this is approved of hanky-panky. Sati.
NO rape...that means she lied. Thank God he recorded it, or he'd been put in prison for 20 years. Now, he'll likely get probation for taping it.
Whart will she get? She should get at least 10 years imho.
They won't pursue rape charges, still a proud moment for Ziegler and his wife. A married man videotaping an affair, certainly a solid family man. Break out the champagne.
I see where police recovered a tape of Brigitte Ziegler with another woman, how many other tapes are out there? Family values!
I am too...her identity was protected under law when the rape allegaton was in play, but now that its been debuncted, its time to reveal her identity.
Who is this woman, & what was here motivation is starting the relationship with both Ziegler's?
She's known Christian Ziegler for 20 years. Perhaps a current or former co-worker or someone that he went to school with. She's known Mr Zeigler since he was around 20 years old.
I'd previously said that I thought they were being Blasey-Ford'ed, seems I was right on the money.
From the link in the OP:
The Republican Party of Florida ousted Ziegler earlier this month as police investigated the rape accusation against him. The party suspended Ziegler last month and demanded his resignation, saying he couldn’t effectively lead during a crucial election year with the allegations swirling around him. DeSantis, U.S. Sens. Marco Rubio and Rick Scott, and other Republican leaders had also called on Ziegler to step down.
Shame on them for folding so easily instead of waiting for the outcome of the investigation. Especially when they know that the left has a history of pulling shenanigans like this. No damn backbone between the lot of 'em.
The left? Did the left drive over to the woman’s apartment and have sex with her? Did the left record it? Did the left have sex with the three of them previously?
The woman was a long term friend of the Ziegler’s and admitted to the police that she had been drinking tequila all day prior to Ziegler’s arrival at her apartment.
Sounds to me like she was hammered and doesn’t correctly recall the details.
She should be prosecuted for filing false charges. I don’t doubt she felt taken advantage of after the fact, but filing rape charges in regret is an egregious criminal act that should not go unaddressed.
Ziegler is still in hot water over the recording. They are the recommending the case to prosecutors for consideration.
The left didn’t need to set this up, they all did a fine job of ruining their own selves.
And in the unlikely (but possible) event that someone did pay her off to file charges, why would it necessarily be the left? Could be his political opponents on the right who got to her. Lawd knows, as you quite rightly pointed out, the Repubs dropped the Zeiglers like a hot potato. Given they were well known to each other, it seems unlikely to me that she’s left leaning.
Did you even read your article, OP? It was "likely consensual", but was an extramarital sexual encounter that HE RECORDED WITHOUT THE WOMAN'S CONSENT.
Just no. Goodbye.
However, kudos to his wife, who truly has attempted to fall on the sword for him, claiming they had a 3some a couple years ago that she "backed out of", so this is approved of hanky-panky. Sati.
"Likely consensual" is irrelevant as you're presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty in a court of law. This case isn't being pursued based on the evidence uncovered, so the presumption of innocence remains. In the eyes of the law--and supported by strong evidence--Ziegler is innocent, even if he is a hypocrite. True, this point about presumption refers to criminal law and you can have committed something regardless of whether a criminal conviction attaches (think cases with clear evidence of rape but where the statute of limitations has run), but here the evidence seems to clear Ziegler even outside of official criminal channels.
That said, I applaud him for recording the encounter as it revealed his accuser to be a liar and avoided a travesty of justice. Or are you not going to attack the women for lying?
Also, I don't know why you bring up the "extramarital" part as if that point in and of itself is problematic. All extramarital means is sexual relations outside of marriage. But in this case Ziegler's extramarital relations seem to have been consented to and known by his wife, so that in and of itself isn't an indictment against him.
I've said that he's still a hypocrite and needs to be called out for that, but some of the other points (especially your attacking of Ziegler while failing to condemn the false accusation against him) are telling.
"Likely consensual" is irrelevant as you're presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty in a court of law. This case isn't being pursued based on the evidence uncovered, so the presumption of innocence remains. In the eyes of the law--and supported by strong evidence--Ziegler is innocent, even if he is a hypocrite. True, this point about presumption refers to criminal law and you can have committed something regardless of whether a criminal conviction attaches (think cases with clear evidence of rape but where the statute of limitations has run), but here the evidence seems to clear Ziegler even outside of official criminal channels.
That said, I applaud him for recording the encounter as it revealed his accuser to be a liar and avoided a travesty of justice. Or are you not going to attack the women for lying?
Also, I don't know why you bring up the "extramarital" part as if that point in and of itself is problematic. All extramarital means is sexual relations outside of marriage. But in this case Ziegler's extramarital relations seem to have been consented to and known by his wife, so that in and of itself isn't an indictment against him.
I've said that he's still a hypocrite and needs to be called out for that, but some of the other points (especially your attacking of Ziegler while failing to condemn the false accusation against him) are telling.
Luckily for him, in that regard. However, I highly doubt he recorded it as insurance against future allegations.
He made a sex tape, a porno. He recorded it for the purpose of getting his jollies later.
While they’ve dropped the rape charges, they are now passing the case to the DA for consideration that he illegally recorded the encounter and I would imagine they believe there’s credibility there, given they’ve decided they should not persue the other charges.
There are other recordings recovered of other encounters, at least one which allegedly involves his wife.
It would appear making amateur porn is one of the Zeigler’s rather colourful sexual proclivities.
They won't pursue rape charges, still a proud moment for Ziegler and his wife. A married man videotaping an affair, certainly a solid family man. Break out the champagne.
I see where police recovered a tape of Brigitte Ziegler with another woman, how many other tapes are out there? Family values!
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Luckily for him, in that regard. However, I highly doubt he recorded it as insurance against future allegations.
He made a sex tape, a porno. He recorded it for the purpose of getting his jollies later.
He'd also deleted it but then managed to retrieve it to give to the investigators.
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While they’ve dropped the rape charges, they are now passing the case to the DA for consideration that he illegally recorded the encounter and I would imagine they believe there’s credibility there, given they’ve decided they should not persue the other charges.
It could be standard operating procedure. She 'claimed' she didn't know, but at this point she's a known liar. and maybe the tape shows differently?
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There are other recordings recovered of other encounters, at least one which allegedly involves his wife.
It would appear making amateur porn is one of the Zeigler’s rather colourful sexual proclivities.
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