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Old 01-21-2024, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Luckily for him, in that regard. However, I highly doubt he recorded it as insurance against future allegations.

He made a sex tape, a porno. He recorded it for the purpose of getting his jollies later.

While they’ve dropped the rape charges, they are now passing the case to the DA for consideration that he illegally recorded the encounter and I would imagine they believe there’s credibility there, given they’ve decided they should not persue the other charges.

There are other recordings recovered of other encounters, at least one which allegedly involves his wife.

It would appear making amateur porn is one of the Zeigler’s rather colourful sexual proclivities.
True. But better potentially prosecuted for unlawful recording than for rape.

I'm fine with the cops referring him for video voyeurism if there is some evidence that such a crime was committed (though I wonder whether the video actually proves a lack of consent or if this is largely based on the woman's words), though to be clear that doesn't mean that the prosecution will agree that there's a case there either. If the woman's word is necessary to convict on a potential video voyeurism charge, however, consider that she's already been shown to be unreliable, so I wouldn't expect a conviction there in any case. We'll see how things develop there, though.

 
Old 01-21-2024, 02:20 PM
 
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The left? Did the left drive over to the woman’s apartment and have sex with her? Did the left record it? Did the left have sex with the three of them previously?

The woman was a long term friend of the Ziegler’s and admitted to the police that she had been drinking tequila all day prior to Ziegler’s arrival at her apartment.

Sounds to me like she was hammered and doesn’t correctly recall the details.

She should be prosecuted for filing false charges. I don’t doubt she felt taken advantage of after the fact, but filing rape charges in regret is an egregious criminal act that should not go unaddressed.

Ziegler is still in hot water over the recording. They are the recommending the case to prosecutors for consideration.

The left didn’t need to set this up, they all did a fine job of ruining their own selves.

And in the unlikely (but possible) event that someone did pay her off to file charges, why would it necessarily be the left? Could be his political opponents on the right who got to her. Lawd knows, as you quite rightly pointed out, the Repubs dropped the Zeiglers like a hot potato. Given they were well known to each other, it seems unlikely to me that she’s left leaning.
Probably the best post of the thread, particularly the bolded. This weaponization of sex needs to stop, on both sides, and folks need to be made examples of when they falsely file claims like this to send a very clear message. I'm talking about stiff 10+ year sentences if it can be proven someone is lying about sexual assault in order to damage another person or financially benefit from them. The penalties should honestly be just as harsh as the penalties for sexual assault itself.

Not speaking about Mr. Ziegler's case specifically, but false accusations like this can absolutely ruin someone's life.
 
Old 01-21-2024, 02:21 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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They are swingers. So it's not a an affair. It's also very common for swinger-types to record their trysts. So there is probably many recordings.
All I've seen at this point was there were only two such encounters. Once a few years ago with all three and this latest where she'd accused him of rape. Do you have anything to back up the "many" other times?
 
Old 01-21-2024, 02:28 PM
 
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True. But better potentially prosecuted for unlawful recording than for rape.

I'm fine with the cops referring him for video voyeurism if there is some evidence that such a crime was committed (though I wonder whether the video actually proves a lack of consent or if this is largely based on the woman's words), though to be clear that doesn't mean that the prosecution will agree that there's a case there either. If the woman's word is necessary to convict on a potential video voyeurism charge, however, consider that she's already been shown to be unreliable, so I wouldn't expect a conviction there in any case. We'll see how things develop there, though.
I suspect you’re right about that.

The whole situation is just kinda ewwww.
 
Old 01-21-2024, 02:45 PM
 
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Duh.


I'm still waiting on that link ...
“A sex video involving Sarasota School Board member Bridget Ziegler and an unidentified woman has been recovered by police as part of the ongoing criminal investigation of a rape allegation made against Bridget’s husband, Christian Ziegler, sources close to the investigation have told the Florida Trident.”

https://news.wgcu.org/top-story/2023...-say?_amp=true
 
Old 01-21-2024, 02:56 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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“A sex video involving Sarasota School Board member Bridget Ziegler and an unidentified woman has been recovered by police as part of the ongoing criminal investigation of a rape allegation made against Bridget’s husband, Christian Ziegler, sources close to the investigation have told the Florida Trident.”

https://news.wgcu.org/top-story/2023...-say?_amp=true

Thank you for posting this one. What about the "other recordings recovered of other encounters"? How many "other recordings of other encounters" are you claiming that there is?
 
Old 01-21-2024, 02:59 PM
 
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I’m beginning to think that some people consider adultery an asset in politics. The Zieglers should just go away.
 
Old 01-21-2024, 03:23 PM
 
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Thank you for posting this one. What about the "other recordings recovered of other encounters"? How many "other recordings of other encounters" are you claiming that there is?
Ah good catch. My bad.

I guess there’s only the two known times that Christian Ziegler made porn of himself or his wife banging another person.
 
Old 01-21-2024, 03:51 PM
 
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I’m beginning to think that some people consider adultery an asset in politics. The Zieglers should just go away.
They're swingers. Not my cup of tea but then neither is gay sex or a host of other things....which are none of my business nor the governments.
 
Old 01-21-2024, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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The “good family man” still have pretty high odds of getting charged for videotaping her without her consent.
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