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Dont really care what Putin says. Reality is we had no treaty with Ukraine and no reason to support them other then "putin bad" for all those who are still living in fear of the Red Menace. We should not spend one single penny of Tax dollars on a country we had no treaties with. Simply get out of your little I hate Putin soapbox and drive around and look at Americans living in the streets and dying there on drugs and justify Billions for Ukraine instead of billions to help ourselves.
Budapest Memorandum - in exchange for giving up their nukes they got security assurances from Russia, the U.K. and the U.S. Part of the nuclear non-proliferation drive. If such security assurances aren’t upheld what country would agree to giving up their nukes or pursuing making them?
Budapest Memorandum - in exchange for giving up their nukes they got security assurances from Russia, the U.K. and the U.S. Part of the nuclear non-proliferation drive. If such security assurances aren’t upheld what country would agree to giving up their nukes or pursuing making them?
Not true.
Russia broke their part of the deal, but the deal says nothing about "US security assurances" or military assistance.
They're not NATO and they're not Japan or South Korea. You don't get to trade in your nukes for the lives of US troops. Pakistan and India would do it tomorrow if that were the case.
Hell, half of Africa and South America would do it tomorrow if that were the case. "Hey America, we're building nukes, please come guarantee our dictators some security, and we will give up the nukes."
Russia broke their part of the deal, but the deal says nothing about "US security assurances" or military assistance.
They're not NATO and they're not Japan or South Korea. You don't get to trade in your nukes for the lives of US troops. Pakistan and India would do it tomorrow if that were the case.
Hell, half of Africa and South America would do it tomorrow if that were the case. "Hey America, we're building nukes, please come guarantee our dictators some security, and we will give up the nukes."
Literally in the title of the document. Though yes nothing about direct military involvement just that the UN Security Council should get immediately involved. Difficult given Russia’s veto power. But signatories are supposed to hold each other in check.
The level of ignorance on this forum is breathtaking, but I'll try anyway.
1. We don't want to let Russia roll over Ukraine, because then the rest of the USSR is next, and those include NATO allies. We'll be involved inevitably. China's watching to see if they'll be likewise allowed to take Taiwan. This is why Ukraine support has been bipartisan (minus the isolationist GOPers who can't see beyond their backyard at the Mexico border and now won't take yes for an answer after holding the fate of Europe hostage for border stuff)
2. Re "see, the global south doesn't care about beating Russia, so why should we care?" Well, the global south doesn't benefit from American hegemony aka "America first" like we do. They can do business with China for all they care, in a new world order where might is right.
3. Tucker Carlson claims the MSM wouldn't interview Putin. Kremlin spokesperson said no, they just block interview requests from all other western outlets except for Carlson because his view was different (aka pro Russia). Considering Carlson's influence, how giddy the Kremlin was to have him, and how readily he just "bOtH sIdEs" the issue, yeah it's bad for America.
4. Anyone bringing up Barbara Walters's 2001 interview with Putin as if Carlson is doing anything remotely resembling that kind of journalism should just drink urine since they won't tell the difference from water anyway.
If a Ukrainian kills Carlson, rest assured it was approved by the US government. EU is already threatening to sanction Carlson, clown world.
I would be like Jane Fonda getting killed while visiting North Vietnam and shooting at US planes. It would have been deemed to be her own fault.
I don't blame EU sanctioning Tucker for giving the enemy a platform to spread anti West/EU/US propaganda.
There is a good reason why Putin has rejected all other Western journalists requests to interview him, and accepted only Tucker: He knows an interview with an openly pro-Russia person plays in his favor.
Literally in the title of the document. Though yes nothing about direct military involvement just that the UN Security Council should get immediately involved.
Again, you answered your own problem: "Nothing about direct US military involvement or assistance."
The US did not break the deal, Russia did. And there is nothing that says US has to "fix" such a deal. US troops are not a pawn you can use if you don't like your neighborhoods.
No amount of money will change the border between Ukraine and Russia.
Again, you answered your own problem: "Nothing about direct US military involvement or assistance."
The US did not break the deal, Russia did. And there is nothing that says US has to "fix" such a deal. US troops are not a pawn you can use if you don't like your neighborhoods.
No amount of money will change the border between Ukraine and Russia.
The Minsk Accords that Ukraine signed, stipulated that all foreign mercenaries and materiel has to be removed from Ukraine. Yet we have Jen Stolenburg the head of NATO admitting that yes Nato have been in Ukraine since 2014.
Ukraine broke their agreements first.
Again, you answered your own problem: "Nothing about direct US military involvement or assistance."
The US did not break the deal, Russia did. And there is nothing that says US has to "fix" such a deal. US troops are not a pawn you can use if you don't like your neighborhoods.
No amount of money will change the border between Ukraine and Russia.
The protections for Ukraine within the Budapest Memorandum were voided by one of the signatories (Russia) after the government of Ukraine experienced a coup. The subsequent government of Ukraine was not recognized as legitimate by Russia.
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