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Old 03-25-2024, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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2020 was an anomaly in Rs choosing not to vote by mail and Ds embracing it as almost virtue signaling. TBH- Rs were stupid to disparage it as it was traditionally a strenght of theirs and I will never be convinced that Dems did not lose several tight congressional districts to ballots lost in the mail. People forget that US mail ground to a standstill in 2020.

In 2020- in big states that mattered (MI, Pa, Ga) it seemed the prevalent ration was for mail in to tilt about 2-1 Dem. They trended more Dem in Nevada and they trended R in Arizona. I'm not sure where you would see anything approaching the 90s for a Dem outside of a couple of cherry-picked precincts in Chicago, Philly or DC that already trend 80% plus Dem for all voters.
You are confusing "mail in" voting with absentee" voting.

Voting absentee requires voters to specifically request ballots.

With mail-in voting, ballots are mass mailed to everybody. It is. lot harder to monitor and control mail-in voting than absentee voting.


Knowing the Difference: Voting Absentee vs. By Mail

https://www.lwv.org/blog/knowing-dif...sentee-vs-mail
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Old 03-25-2024, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Western PA
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Because democrats cheat. It really is just that simple.
Now, they will gaslight with "there's no evidence" after having destroyed the evidence. But don't be misled by these greedy and conceited trolls. Democrats will say things like "the Right needs to have better policies and candidates" when in reality the Left is the party with severely compromised people and ideas. That's why democrats cheat. It's the only way they can win. When listening to democrats, ask yourself: does any of this make any sense for a normal person?
Democrats are not interested in what's good for the American people. Democrats are only interested in what's good for democrats.

if you read the methodology Marist puts out for their polls (and quinnipac sp?) they state that PA in general, but philly in partic, has a 5% slip factor built in due to generations of state run fraud. They LITERALLY put it in their calculations. You would think someone .....
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Old 03-25-2024, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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You are confusing "mail in" voting with absentee" voting.

Voting absentee requires voters to specifically request ballots.

With mail-in voting, ballots are mass mailed to everybody. It is. lot harder to monitor and control mail-in voting than absentee voting.
Incorrect. In Pennsylvania, we must request a mail ballot if we so choose.

No wonder there's so much confusion about voting procedures, with this type of misinformation floating about.
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Old 03-25-2024, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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I have a feeling that even if Trump wins in 2024 the Trump wing will still complain about fraud under some variant of: Trump won by more than the results said he won by, there is no way he didn't. Because nobody "with a brain" would vote for anyone other than Trump.
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Old 03-25-2024, 01:43 PM
 
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Lol more of the butthurt "Dems only win bc they cheat" foolishness. Does whining about losing ever get tiring? Democrats haven't lost a Presidential popular vote in a very long time. It's not because of cheating, it's because of Republicans being the less popular party (nationally) for a very long time. It is what it is, though perhaps that is changing now. I guess we will see in November.

If Trump wins in 2024 all this "Democrats cheat" stuff is going to disappear as quickly as the Tea party did when Trump first got elected, because there will no longer be any political benefit to maintaining that dishonest battle cry. If Trump loses, the Republicans who yell NO ONE COULD EVER POSSIBLY VOTE FOR BIDEN IF HE WINS DEMS HAVE TO BE CHEATING!!! as loudly as they can will yell even louder as they throw their inevitable temper tantrums.

I can't imagine a more predictable outcome. And so the world turns.
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Old 03-25-2024, 01:45 PM
 
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I have a feeling that even if Trump wins in 2024 the Trump wing will still complain about fraud under some variant of: Trump won by more than the results said he won by, there is no way he didn't. Because nobody "with a brain" would vote for anyone other than Trump.
They might complain because that's just what they do. All the time. Complain and play victim, even when they win.

Just like their leader.
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Old 03-25-2024, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Western PA
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Incorrect. In Pennsylvania, we must request a mail ballot if we so choose.

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False. not even true as of 2020. I was not *here* then I think, but I diagrammed the issue I had for a dead grandmother, whom I just so happened to be the executor for, AND own her old house.



PA DNC component is corrupt. Uber corrupt.




PS: before you answer, they sent me not 1, not 2, but *3* absentee ballots. I watched her lower into the ground in 2004, so Im like 99.9% sure it was not her. I get all the mail, I have known my mailman for 30 years. This was 100% unsolicited.
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Old 03-25-2024, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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False. not even true as of 2020.
I'm not surprised that your information is a couple of decades old. All voters must request ballots at least once per year.

https://www.vote.pa.gov/Voting-in-PA...ee-Ballot.aspx

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In Pennsylvania, you have two options for mail ballots.
  • Mail-in ballot – Any qualified voter may apply for a mail-in ballot. You may simply request this ballot without a reason.
  • Absentee ballot – If you plan to be out of the municipality on election day or if you have a disability or illness that prevents you from going to your polling place on election day, you can request this ballot type, which still requires you to list a reason for your ballot.
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What is annual mail voting?
When you apply to be an annual mail voter, you are indicating that:
  1. You want to receive a mail ballot for every election until the 3rd Monday in February of the following year. (You will automatically receive a mail ballot for any election during that period.)
    AND
  2. You would like your county board of elections to remind you to apply to vote by mail every year. By February, you will receive a paper request form for mail ballots for every election during that year or you can submit a request online.
You must submit a request to vote by mail ballot every year that you wish to vote by mail.
No voter in Pennsylvania receives a ballot unless he/she asks for one.
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Old 03-25-2024, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Western PA
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I'm not surprised that your information is a couple of decades old. All voters must request ballots at least once per year.

https://www.vote.pa.gov/Voting-in-PA...ee-Ballot.aspx

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No voter in Pennsylvania receives a ballot unless he/she asks for one.



see I thot there was a reason I felt a little older than being 60, apparently, according to you, the difference between 2024 and 2020 is 'a couple decades'


You may request ballots in PA, for *ANY* election, via your local party house. *YOU* do not have to contact the DoS or the local registrar *AT ALL*


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Any qualified voter may apply for a mail-in ballot. You may simply request this ballot without a reason.

apparently, one of the reasons you dont need is LIFE. In no other election cycle did a mail ballot EVER show up.


She was a registered DEM longer than your parents have been alive, ergo they most certainly had her info, having lived there for 25 years. The request, was put in FOR her. Probably, from philly. *3** times.
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Old 03-25-2024, 02:21 PM
 
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Per title question - best gaslighting result of the last decade.

Somehow in the last 10 years, it just became the accepted "conventional wisdom" that by VAST majorities, all mail in, early, found, not_identified_with_photo_ID_at_polling_place, misplaced, or ballot harvested votes somehow are Democrat.

And by "VAST majority", I mean like >85% margins.

No idea how we all came to just say "uhm, sure, that makes sense, all non_id votes are Dem" but we did.
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