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And if you say that it will be adjusted,, why 2 years before it wasnt adjusted correctly???
...it's called a market economy... "correct" changes with the thousands of other variables that change over a year... hell, over a few months.... hell, maybe overnight.
I've nothing more to say to you if you can't even understand that.
what you dont understand is this...
going to medicine is difficult, and expensive.. also it is hell...
4 years of University(or the 90 credits pre-med that only about 20% of student do it..), then 4 years of Medical school, then 3 years of Residency,, In residency you work almost 80 hours a week,, how do you like those apples... After all of this you are Peds, Internal medicine or Family P. if you want to be more, then you go to Fellowship, another 3 years.. when you finish you are in your 30's
Do you think people are going to this if they are going to be making 45K????
All of our schools would be empty...
...it's called a market economy... "correct" changes with the thousands of other variables that change over a year... hell, over a few months.... hell, maybe overnight.
I've nothing more to say to you if you can't even understand that.
Clearly, you lack understanding of the healthcare system.
For one thing - the Japanese model you seem to prefer would not work in the United States if for no other reason but the number of people we have in this country compared to Japan, and the geographic territory.
Add to the mix the number of Private, for profit, healthcare companies (Hospitals, Pharmacies etc) - the government (US) would have to buy ALL OF THEM OUT, and buy out all private practices of physicans.
Then, there is the matter of our laws prohibiting price fixing -
Now - add in the fact that a Doctor - a specialist is making, say 1 Mil a year - and you suddenly limit their income to 60K? You have lost that doctor.
...it's called a market economy... "correct" changes with the thousands of other variables that change over a year... hell, over a few months.... hell, maybe overnight.
I've nothing more to say to you if you can't even understand that.
I do... but still it doesnt work... did you read the article... doctors are making less then the average people...
I'm generally for Universal Healthcare but I wouldn't have any faith in such a system run by the US Government. Not only because inefficiency but also corruption. But it won't happen anyways so... whatever.
I'm not advocated anything. I'm simply tearing his argument down that Japan's system is doomed.
I'm perfectly content living without healthcare (and have been for the last 4 years). If things get bad I will give myself an injection of 230gr .45ACP hollow point directly to the brain.
I'm not advocated anything. I'm simply tearing his argument down that Japan's system is doomed.
I'm perfectly content living without healthcare (and have been for the last 4 years). If things get bad I will give myself an injection of 230gr .45ACP hollow point directly to the brain.
It could be doomed.. why not,, do you know the future? are you GOD???\
Please....
is not working when 50% of the hospital are in financial trouble...
we are not talking about 10 or 20%, but 50%... that to me say something..
and just in case, here in the US, the doctors or hospital dont set the prices, the insurance set them...
If you have insurance, then the doctor can only charge you what the insurance allows him to charge... so what is the difference??? One is controlled by capitalism the other by the government....
Who are you to say how much someone else should make. Let's cut your pay by 1/3. I think the whole if you're a doctor you're rich isn't the reality anymore. My uncle is a doctor, he does very well but he's not driving around in a 80,000 dollar sports car. He has four kids.
The greatest amount of pork in our system comes from the hospitals (administrators), drug companies, pharmacists, insurance companies, and malpractice suits. Yes, the actual pay of the doctors is high. But I would chop all those other things first and go from there. I think that would take care of most of the monopoly that is bleeding us dry.
The greatest amount of pork in our system comes from the hospitals (administrators), drug companies, pharmacists, insurance companies, and malpractice suits. Yes, the actual pay of the doctors is high. But I would chop all those other things first and go from there. I think that would take care of most of the monopoly that is bleeding us dry.
what monopoly are you talking about?
A lot of hospitals are not making money.. are breaking even.
How can you chop all of those.. I mean you sound like a Fidel Castro...
Malpractice??? ok,, until you loose your son or someone you love then you will say I want more.
Actual doctors salary are not that high??? where do you get this info???
the average for a family practice is 120-145K.. is that a lot for a person that went to school for 11 years to become one???
what monopoly are you talking about?
A lot of hospitals are not making money.. are breaking even.
How can you chop all of those.. I mean you sound like a Fidel Castro...
Malpractice??? ok,, until you loose your son or someone you love then you will say I want more.
Actual doctors salary are not that high??? where do you get this info???
the average for a family practice is 120-145K.. is that a lot for a person that went to school for 11 years to become one???
Look, Im a social and fiscal conservative that rolled the dice twice on bush and lost. I want a balanced budget amendment and border security. Im a shop around and save a buck kind of guy with german efficientcy in my bloodline.
You cant shop around for medical care, unless you fly to another country like india where you can save 80%. Never had medical insurance, own my home and work part time. Im in my 40s and ride my bicycle 30 miles a day to keep fit. Im healty as a horse but might not mind paying $100 a month for insurance if it covered everything. If you could get the others like me to pay into a fair system that they probably wont use.....then theres gonna be more money to work with in healthcare.
Everything with healthcare has gone up way above and beyond the rates of inflation. Most americans hold their own or lose ground while healthcare takes a free ride to prosperity, for over 40 years now. Why, because their the only game in town, or a MONOPOLY, as I like to call it. I will NOT PAY into it unless I have too.
Go to small town USA and look at how the pharmacist lives vs the old people with siding falling off their house, trying to scrape up money for drugs. We pay double for the same drugs they sell in europe. THATS A MONOPOLY.
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