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I've seen a few posts by people saying they're Conservative but they don't align themselves with the religious right. When I think Religious Right, I automatically think Conservative or vice versa.
I just wanted to get people's opinions on this.
I have some more traditional conservative views (not to be confused with Religious Right ideals...goodness no) but I guess if I had to pigeonhole myself, I'd call myself a Liberal.
Hmmm, conservative. I immediately think of someone who is judgemental, intolerant, overly religious, & totally unconcerned w/the environment or any human other than themselves. They seem to forget that old saying "you're only as strong as your weakest link", in connection w/helping our fellow citizens.
Well going by a lot of posters on here, it's a very angry person with a huge chip on their shoulders quick to blame anyone different and throw out the word liberal as a slander.
Some are still civil though, and the usually definition of a conservative is one who doesn't like govt. interference in economic matters, but likes them in personal issues; a liberal is ok with govt. getting into economics but doesn't want interference in personal issues.
Well going by a lot of posters on here, it's a very angry person with a huge chip on their shoulders quick to blame anyone different and throw out the word liberal as a slander.
Some are still civil though, and the usually definition of a conservative is one who doesn't like govt. interference in economic matters, but likes them in personal issues; a liberal is ok with govt. getting into economics but doesn't want interference in personal issues.
I've never understood that about conservatives. They're for small government, but then are the loudest chestbeaters when it comes to personal issues, issues that have nothing to do w/them. What's up w/that?
True Conservatives seek a limited government that seeks to protect and lead and not to provide. We don't want authoritative figures as we don't want to be ruled. We think that large government is oppressive and seeks to make people SLAVES to the state, not individuals, and were certainly don't believe in one state. We believe that big government will inevitably look out for its own interests rather than the interests of its citizens if left unchecked. We don’t believe that the leaders of the government should think for the people, however they should lead and represent the people.
We seek responsible fiscal policy. We seek opportunity in terms of business.
We seek to be able to practice ANY religion that we so choose without government and left wing oppression of said religion. This country was founded due to religious oppression and it should be a mainstay of our Constitution.
We are all for freedom of speech thought but just because you disagree with what you say doesn't give you the right to try and stifle what we have to say. We also believe that there are consequences to freedom of speech.
We believe in personal responsibility and individualism, but also altruism, simply because teaching that makes us and everyone better. We believe in charity before government handouts, and we believe in helping our fellow man.
We don't think it takes a village to raise a child, we think it take some responsible parents who will take the time to devote to their children. We believe in education and we believe proper education starts in the home. We believe that people are essentially good.
A simple study of history shows that socialism and communism are failed ideologies. One has to look at this country’s own past to see the failure of the Pilgrim’s collective society (socialist) and subsequent transfer to a society where one had to work hard in order to live.
I've never understood that about conservatives. They're for small government, but then are the loudest chestbeaters when it comes to personal issues, issues that have nothing to do w/them. What's up w/that?
My thoughts exactly!!
They want smaller government but a government that legislates and controls their idea of personal morality.
True Conservatives seek a limited government that seeks to protect and lead and not to provide. We don't want authoritative figures as we don't want to be ruled. We think that large government is oppressive and seeks to make people SLAVES to the state, not individuals, and were certainly don't believe in one state. We believe that big government will inevitably look out for its own interests rather than the interests of its citizens if left unchecked. We don’t believe that the leaders of the government should think for the people, however they should lead and represent the people.
We seek responsible fiscal policy. We seek opportunity in terms of business.
We seek to be able to practice ANY religion that we so choose without government and left wing oppression of said religion. This country was founded due to religious oppression and it should be a mainstay of our Constitution.
We are all for freedom of speech thought but just because you disagree with what you say doesn't give you the right to try and stifle what we have to say. We also believe that there are consequences to freedom of speech.
We believe in personal responsibility and individualism, but also altruism, simply because teaching that makes us and everyone better. We believe in charity before government handouts, and we believe in helping our fellow man.
We don't think it takes a village to raise a child, we think it take some responsible parents who will take the time to devote to their children. We believe in education and we believe proper education starts in the home. We believe that people are essentially good.
A simple study of history shows that socialism and communism are failed ideologies. One has to look at this country’s own past to see the failure of the Pilgrim’s collective society (socialist) and subsequent transfer to a society where one had to work hard in order to live.
So do I have the freedom to be an atheist? Just to be sure.
I'm all for people beliving in whatever religious system they want but when they start to use that religious system to restrict my rights, freedoms, etc then we have a problem. I'm an atheist and I though I have huge problems with religion, I won't advocate shutting down churches, etc because I wouldn't want someone saying I, or anyone else, MUST believe in a certain deity in order to be a citizen of this country or any other country for that matter.
I personally don't think the government should be in the business of saying who should be married and who shouldn't.
I don't think the government should have any unnecessary intrusion in the lives of it citizens.
I can understand the police trying to curb domestic violence and things of that nature but the government shouldn't have all this unnecessary regulation of marriage, abortion, etc.
I agree with:
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We don't think it takes a village to raise a child, we think it take some responsible parents who will take the time to devote to their children. We believe in education and we believe proper education starts in the home.
Hmmm, conservative. I immediately think of someone who is judgemental, intolerant, overly religious, & totally unconcerned w/the environment or any human other than themselves. They seem to forget that old saying "you're only as strong as your weakest link", in connection w/helping our fellow citizens.
Who says they don't help their fellow citizens? They just don't need the government telling them to do so.
True Conservatives seek a limited government that seeks to protect and lead and not to provide. We don't want authoritative figures as we don't want to be ruled. We think that large government is oppressive and seeks to make people SLAVES to the state, not individuals, and were certainly don't believe in one state. We believe that big government will inevitably look out for its own interests rather than the interests of its citizens if left unchecked. We don’t believe that the leaders of the government should think for the people, however they should lead and represent the people.
We seek responsible fiscal policy. We seek opportunity in terms of business.
We seek to be able to practice ANY religion that we so choose without government and left wing oppression of said religion. This country was founded due to religious oppression and it should be a mainstay of our Constitution.
We are all for freedom of speech thought but just because you disagree with what you say doesn't give you the right to try and stifle what we have to say. We also believe that there are consequences to freedom of speech.
We believe in personal responsibility and individualism, but also altruism, simply because teaching that makes us and everyone better. We believe in charity before government handouts, and we believe in helping our fellow man.
We don't think it takes a village to raise a child, we think it take some responsible parents who will take the time to devote to their children. We believe in education and we believe proper education starts in the home. We believe that people are essentially good.
A simple study of history shows that socialism and communism are failed ideologies. One has to look at this country’s own past to see the failure of the Pilgrim’s collective society (socialist) and subsequent transfer to a society where one had to work hard in order to live.
I totally agree with this poster. Not all conservatives are religious nutcases or are even Christian. I'm Jewish, so I get a bit tired of this whole "pigeon hole conservatives as whacked out religious fanatics" bent. And I get tired of people like Palin or some other choice people who think they represent you or assume becasue you tend to be or vote more conservative, that you also share all their moral bents and biases. You'll find conservative Muslims, (my neighbors), Aetheists, etc. For me, conservative bascially means less government intrusion and more personal responsiblity. Now, the GOP has moved so far from those tenants that many people who consider themselves conservatives are no happier with Bush than liberals are. We want to see him out of office just as bad as the next guy. And many also believe that neither candidate and neither party really represents their beliefs or is the best for the nation. Thus the quandry: "what to do?" You do what you think will be better than the options, whether that be the two candidates or a third party. Then you deal with the next four years just like everyone else.
Being conservative has absolutely nothing to do with religion. Religion is the ingredient that turns being conservationism into a an unpalatable stew.
Conservative has absolutely nothing to do with Bush, who has grown government more than any other president, though his promises were the opposite (the start of never being able to tell the truth).
Conservatives don't start wars, they don't run up record breaking deficits.
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