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Old 11-30-2008, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Texas...comme ci, comme ça...
Texans for Obama!

 
Old 11-30-2008, 01:09 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Not only is the left hateful and intolerant but they are also fascist.

And now, according to hardcore Bush bootlickers, the left is the 75% of Americans who no longer approve of Bush. You're painting yourself into a shrinking corner. Time to change your radio station.

The rest of America isn't really your enemy. That war exists only in minds poisoned by kooky hate radio.

 
Old 11-30-2008, 03:03 PM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Isn't it time you got off your mother's computer and get back to worshipping Obama? Go to your room and chant yes we can and change we need for an hour. Then pledge allegiance to the flag of the obamanation. Be a good little soldier against the kkk of america

Let's make an agreement, OK sweetie?

I'll call my mom and ask for her permission to stay on-line.

If you return to your Y2K bunker and promise to not come out until 30 days after Obama's inauguration.

Deal?

 
Old 11-30-2008, 04:07 PM
 
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Good luck with your president and your country. You are opposed to the KKK yet, your president is racist and black nationalist. Now back to liberals - hateful, intolerant, fascist and HYPOCRITES.
This has been repeated several dozen times by several members but yet none of these claims are backed up by anything beyond an opinion.\

As far as hate, the KKK make very clear their agendas and wishes. What do you have on the Obama front?
 
Old 12-01-2008, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Maybe you could have responded to like one of them...
OK, here's the original question I asked.

"How is it that white people cause blacks to score lower on standardized tests?"

And here's the series of rhetorical questions you asked in order to avoid answering my original question. Select one and I'll give you an answer.

"Have you read no US history at all? Are you that totally ignorant of how we all got to where we are today? If not, why are you feigning such ignorance? To get to particulars, what value do you see in standardized tests? What do they measure and how accurately do they measure those things? You seem here to claim these tests as a yardstick of sorts...why do you do that? Lastly, what is it do you suspect that accounts for the discrepancies you report? Are black people innately dumber than whites? Are the tests themselves biased so as to make them easier for whites? Has the sort of instruction that would lead to strong performance on such tests been widely withheld from blacks? What exactly is or are the causes of these reported differences in your view?"

I would like you to also answer my original question with a declarative sentence. Thank you.
 
Old 12-01-2008, 11:45 AM
 
Location: South East UK
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OK, here's the original question I asked.

"How is it that white people cause blacks to score lower on standardized tests?"

Thank you.
Why "blacks" why not black people?

Since we all emigrated from Africa, even "white" Europeans, your question is based on an assumption that is nonsensical.
 
Old 12-01-2008, 09:30 PM
 
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how would you describe condoleezza rice and clarence thomas? perhaps as tokens in the republican party? sell outs, or whatever other ugly name the left has given them.
clarence thomas a token
condelezza shes okay
 
Old 12-02-2008, 02:07 AM
 
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This has been repeated several dozen times by several members but yet none of these claims are backed up by anything beyond an opinion.
Oh yeah? A book you'll deny, and are probably too cowardly to read:

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John Derbyshire kindly writes of America's Half-Blood Prince:
"Steve Sailer gives us the real Barack Obama, who turns out to be very different—and much more interesting—than the bland healer/uniter image stitched together out of whole cloth this past six years by Obama's packager, David Axelrod. Making heavy use of Obama's own writings, which he admires for their literary artistry, Sailer gives the deepest insights I have yet seen into Obama's lifelong obsession with 'race and inheritance,' and rounds off this brilliant character portrait with speculations on how Obama's personality might play out in the Presidency."
My book serves as a reader’s guide to the President-Elect’s elusive but ultimately revealing autobiography, Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance. Although there has been a vast effusion of verbiage about Barack Obama (Google lists 117 million webpages), there has been little serious analysis of what the next President has written about himself.
That’s more than a little strange because Dreams from My Father has sold millions of copies, and will likely sell tens of millions more in future decades as it inevitably gets added to high school and college mandatory reading lists.
The seemingly puzzling lack of insightful attention paid to Obama’s 1995 book has a simple explanation: Obama, the MainStream Media, and, for that matter, John McCain (who, as I accurately predicted back in February, more or less threw the election by vetoing all ads having even the most tangential connection to race) haven’t wanted the public to understand the central obsessions of Obama’s memoir. You aren’t supposed to grasp what, actually, are the dreams from Obama’s father: to gain personal political power for himself in service to his race.
The fundamental message of Obama’s enormous tome about himself is that, despite his half-white nature and all non-black nurture, he is black enough leader of the black race.
to be a The moral of the story is not at all complicated. It just hasn’t been understood for two reasons:
  • First, Obama’s prose style of thoughtful nuances and literary flourishes is designed to induce in readers not comprehension but a Zen-like trance of admiration for the writer. Moreover, Obama’s writing is engineered to be unquotable.
  • Second, Obama’s book relentlessly contradicts Obama’s own campaign image that was invented for him by David Axelrod as America’s magical racial transcender.

Peter Brimelow, editor of VDARE.COM, writes in my book’s Foreword:
"Barack Obama has been presenting himself since 2004 as a 'half-blood prince,' an archetypal ambiguous figure in whom the various parts of a deeply-divided society can jointly invest their contradictory hopes. Such figures spring up regularly in conflicted polities. A classic example in my own experience: Pierre Trudeau, the son of a French-speaking father and English-speaking mother, who appeared to have pulled off the same trick in reconciling English and French Canada in 1968. But, in such situations, someone is going to be disappointed. In Canada, Trudeau turned out to be an epiphenomenon of French Canadian nationalist debate."
As with Trudeaumania in 1968, Obamamania in 2008 is dependent on nobody paying much attention to the politician’s past. (The 2006 biography by two Trudeau supporters, Young Trudeau: 1919-1944: Son of Quebec, Father of Canada, revealed that to aid the Vichy puppet regime in France during WWII, the young Trudeau tried to organize a Fascist revolution to take Quebec out of Britain’s war effort.)
America’s Half-Blood Prince offers a close critical analysis of the next President’s story of his own life. You’ll recognize some of it from my VDARE.com articles and from my iSteve blog, but much is completely new and the rest is put into a coherent framework for the first time. My book provides a biography of Obama, with a fair amount of it in his own words.
Here’s an excerpt from the final chapter:
When asked what represented the greatest challenge for a statesman, British Prime Minister, Harold Macmillan responded in his typically languid fashion, "Events, my dear boy, events."
“What kind of President would Barack Obama turn out to be?
“I don’t like to make predictions because I hate being wrong. It’s especially hard to be right about the future interplay of personalities and events. In 2000, another under-examined Presidential candidate, George W. Bush, was elected while promising what his chief foreign affairs advisor, Condoleezza Rice, called a more ‘modest’ foreign policy.
“Then, 9/11 happened.
“After becoming British Prime Minister in 1957, Harold Macmillan, whose adult life spanned the Great War, the Depression, WWII, and the Cold War, observed that governments are driven less by their own goals than by the sheer necessity of responding in some fashion to unforeseen events. As I write during the financial turmoil of mid-October 2008, ‘events are in the saddle and they ride mankind,’ to quote Ralph Waldo Emerson. Whether events would constrain or liberate Obama’s ‘deepest commitments’ is impossible to say at this point.
“A few likelihoods seem apparent, though. In Obama, ambition and caution are yoked. Becoming President is not his ultimate objective. Becoming a two-term President is. Republican Richard Nixon’s first Administration was one of the most liberal in American history. There were hints at the beginning of his second term, before Watergate washed every bit of policy coherence away, that Nixon, having safely won re-election, intended to move toward his innate conservatism. That analogy suggests that a second Obama administration might more truly reflect the real Obama.
“Also, the conflict-adverse Obama isn’t all that likely to go to the mat with the Senate if the Republicans keep at least the 41 Senate seats necessary to stage filibusters. …
“If elected, this ‘blank screen’ candidate would inevitably disappoint at least some of his enthusiasts. After all, they espouse profoundly contradictory hopes.
“Which ones will he disillusion?
“Rather than make a prediction, I prefer to take a more Heisenbergian approach. As Barack Obama Sr. no doubt could have pointed out, Marx said, ‘The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.’
“The point of this book is to change a potential Obama Administration for the better by making the public a little less ignorant about Obama. For all his talk of ‘audacity,’ Obama is far more cautious than his brash father was. Fortunately, the son remains a work in progress. His opportunism makes him deterrable. The less gullible the American people are about who Obama truly is, the better chance we have of keeping him from trying to fulfill his ‘deepest commitments.’
“More broadly, America has had it easy for decades, but the fat years are coming to an end. We aren’t so rich anymore that we can continue to get by with a conventional wisdom built on ignorance, lies, and spin.
“The widespread assumption that Obama must be our Half-Blood Prince, born and bred to resolve our racial disputes, is symptomatic of American elites’ loosening grip on reality regarding anything dealing with ‘diversity.’ Recall how the media, both parties, academia, and Wall Street all pushed for 15 years for laxer mortgage lending standards for minorities … with catastrophic results.
“Why? Because everyone who was anyone had agreed that only evil people publicly display skepticism about diversity.
“Similarly, the American establishment has been so intellectually enfeebled by political correctness that for two years we’ve all been fed a steady diet of David Axelrod’s implausible campaign concoction starring the author of Dreams from My Father as the Great Race Transcender. All these months, our elites barely mentioned (or even noticed) the subtitle of the ‘postracial’ candidate’s autobiography: A Story of Race and Inheritance.
“It’s time for new elites.”
To repeat: America's Half-Blood Prince: Barack Obama's "Story of Race and Inheritance" , the paperback, can be ordered now for $29.95 from here. It makes an excellent Christmas gift. (Just be sure to have it shipped via a fast enough method to arrive by Christmas Eve.)
Over the years, VDARE.COM and I have greatly appreciated your support. It has made it possible for my colleagues and myself to make a living as bringers of unwelcome, but salutary, news.
We would be most grateful if you’d buy my book. And we think you will enjoy it.
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Old 12-02-2008, 02:50 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Because "black people" sounds too much like "you people" of Ross Perot fame. But It really doesn't matter does it? When the left's assumptions are exposed for being nonsensical, liberals resort to silly desperate tactics like implying that the other person's choice of words is a smoking gun indicator of a racist mindset. It is a lot like the tactic commonly used on this forum of attacking the spelling and punctuation used in a question rather than answering it. Anyways, saganista didn't answer my question and it would appear that you're not going to either.
 
Old 12-02-2008, 02:56 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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No, I don't think the Democratic party is the new anti-white racist party. There are some Democratic party supporters who are also black racist who hate white people and Jewish people. There are supporters of the Democratic party who are also Communist at worse or Socialist at best. There are supporters of the Democratic party who are supporters of Islamic Terrorist (Hamas for one).
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