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You can't be "ex-gay" anymore than you can be "a little bit pregnant" - LOL. One can live as a straight person, but they will always be gay/bi if those are their natural tendencies... just my opinion, of course.
If they are bi, they have a choice. Who are you to look down on them for perusing a female relationship?
Because the thought of two dudes getting it on is gross, while the thought of two women getting it on is HOT!
I think it's also part of society's idea that women are unimportant compared to the other sex, so you never see the anti-gay crowd carrying on about women--women aren't even worth hating like gay men are. It's like we barely even exist.
I think it's also part of society's idea that women are unimportant compared to the other sex, so you never see the anti-gay crowd carrying on about women--women aren't even worth hating like gay men are. It's like we barely even exist.
Did you ever see the Six Feet Under episode where Kathy Bates gets "Claire" to start shoplifting? She says, 'we are two women over fifty, we are invisible - we'll never get caught'.
I think it's also part of society's idea that women are unimportant compared to the other sex, so you never see the anti-gay crowd carrying on about women--women aren't even worth hating like gay men are. It's like we barely even exist.
Nah, it's not that, I don't believe. It's more that two guys together have always gotten a much stronger negative reaction than the idea of two women together. Gender identities for men in our society are a lot more rigid than gender identities for women. Example: It's perfectly acceptable for a woman to wear a dress or pants. For men? Uh, well, no way.
Did you ever see the Six Feet Under episode where Kathy Bates gets "Claire" to start shoplifting? She says, 'we are two women over fifty, we are invisible - we'll never get caught'.
Never seen Six Feet Under before, but that sounds about right.
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Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale
Nah, it's not that, I don't believe. It's more that two guys together have always gotten a much stronger negative reaction than the idea of two women together. Gender identities for men in our society are a lot more rigid than gender identities for women. Example: It's perfectly acceptable for a woman to wear a dress or pants. For men? Uh, well, no way.
So you think that men always come up in the arguments because opponents of GLBTQ rights are using gay men because people react more negatively to them and it helps their cause?
I think all of these things are at work in some way. I remember hearing in the Holocaust course I took that lesbians were rarely taken to concentration or death camps, while gay men were quite often. I understand there's some evidence that the government felt that it would be easy to use women for reproduction even if they were lesbians, whereas gay men were considered useless. You could take a lot from that--gay men are considered more repulsive, women in general are seen as more receptive to manipulation, lesbianism wasn't even thought to be something real, women weren't worth bothering with/punishing for lesbianism, yet somehow male homosexual relationships were seen as harmful to society, etc.
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