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View Poll Results: Do You Think That Obama's Eligibility Issue Has Any Merit?
YES 102 35.92%
NO 182 64.08%
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Old 02-23-2009, 01:38 PM
 
Location: The Heartland
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I just called them and confirmed, I invite you to as well if you question it.

808-586-4533
vr-info@doh.hawaii.gov
Did you ask them what records they would receive in 1961, and it there anyone there who was around then and would know?

 
Old 02-23-2009, 01:39 PM
 
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I've gone over this too many times, you find out why they would. I promise the info is out there.
I don't think your promise in this case is all that promising. Why don't you explain it again? Surely there are new readers in this thread that haven't heard your explanation? Wasn't it something like, oh, Obama's mother didn't care, the grandparents did? Because natural-born citizenship gives you so many more privileges than any other citizenship. Oh, but wait, it doesn't. There is only ONE privilege that is reserved for natural-born citizens--that of being able to serve as President. Only ONE privilege. Obama's grandparents thought that their grandson, half-black half white in the 1960's, would grow up to be President? Got some proof of that?
 
Old 02-23-2009, 01:40 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Did you ask them what records they would receive in 1961, and it there anyone there who was around then and would know?
They confirmed that in their vault - they only keep HAWAIIAN birth certificates.

No matter what they say, you will not admit that you are wrong.

I have proven my point - prove yours.
 
Old 02-23-2009, 01:40 PM
 
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His credentials are to a Dr. Fink - who confirmed he is not techdude.
What about the other expert, got anything on her?
 
Old 02-23-2009, 01:42 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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What about the other expert, got anything on her?
Why do you keep avoiding the questions relating to techdude?

Upon reading Ms. Lines affidavit - she does not contend that the BC is fraudulent - she claims that the only way one could find it genuine would be to examine the one in the vault - which the State of HI did and declared genuine. She also says you would need to see the blacked out certificate number, which has now been released.
 
Old 02-23-2009, 01:44 PM
 
Location: North America
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Do You Think That Obama's Eligibility Issue Has Any Merit?

Absolutely none. These rumors, lawsuits, etc. are a fringe element attempt at attacking a legally elected President.
 
Old 02-23-2009, 01:47 PM
 
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Then why don't you believe the video I posted that had nothing to do with his berth? I have a feeling you did not even watch it.
googled Akuma yet?

By the way, I went back to your "link", and ran the entire thing from start to finish. Pretty psychedelic pictures. No interview. I searched the interviewer's name at the BBC, no matches. So what gives?

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Old 02-23-2009, 01:47 PM
 
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They confirmed that in their vault - they only keep HAWAIIAN birth certificates.

No matter what they say, you will not admit that you are wrong.
So you did not ask them about 1961 or if anyone would know about then huh?

Read all of this link and get back to me. Everything that it claims is backed up with Hawaiian law.

LINK
 
Old 02-23-2009, 01:50 PM
 
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Why do you keep avoiding the questions relating to techdude?

Upon reading Ms. Lines affidavit - she does not contend that the BC is fraudulent - she claims that the only way one could find it genuine would be to examine the one in the vault - which the State of HI did and declared genuine. She also says you would need to see the blacked out certificate number, which has now been released.
Because there is no end to it. Lets say for arguments sake, that you or the person who wrote the article was right, now how about the other expert and why do you keep avoiding her?

Here is her actual affidavit and even she says we need to see the original because the copy on the net cannot be relied upon as Genuine due to programs like Photoshop that can make a document look genuine. Now can you find someone to debunk her. If not then the one on the net is worthless, the original needs to be seen. The one in the vault should absolutely be genuine but, they (the Hawaiian officials)did not say it was exactly like the one posted on the net now did they?

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Old 02-23-2009, 01:51 PM
 
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Because there is no end to it. Lets say for arguments sake, that you or the person who wrote the article was right, now how about the other expert and why do you keep avoiding her?
Look at what you quoted and tell me I'm avoiding her.
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