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Old 01-26-2009, 10:43 AM
 
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The problem is no matter what Obama wants to do the Obama followers will accept with no questioning and if you do question his ideas the typical responses are something along the lines of (in the world of CD):
"SORE LOSER!!! YOU LOST!!!!!!!!!!"
or
"Bush spent billions on a war and nobody complained but now it matters?"

Got to love America.
It's not about whats right or what makes sense it's about blindly accepting what Obama does.
Another conservative complainer with no solutions only critiques. How about you explain what's right? Lay out your plan or is it the same as McCain's, nothing.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:44 AM
 
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Another conservative complainer with no solutions only critiques. How about you explain what's right? Lay out your plan or is it the same as McCain's, nothing.
Rather a typical neocon MO, I'd say. Were you expecting any different?
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:44 AM
 
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Well...to be fair followers of BOTH parties tend to do that.

It is just the Obama followers are doing it now and doing it with such abandon...
This is true.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:45 AM
 
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Rather a typical neocon MO, I'd say. Were you expecting any different?
Of course, how dare anybody question what the government does.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:52 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Another conservative complainer with no solutions only critiques. How about you explain what's right? Lay out your plan or is it the same as McCain's, nothing.
Okay is doing 'something' better than doing nothing?

Even if what you do will cost a trillion dollars and has no guarantee of success?

Ever wondered what would have happened if CONgress had not caved in to the first bailout and simply waited???
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:53 AM
 
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Another conservative complainer with no solutions only critiques. How about you explain what's right? Lay out your plan or is it the same as McCain's, nothing.
Maybe not spend hundreds of billions or trillions we don't have?
Some people bought houses they couldn't afford and should be foreclosed, some businesses should fail.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:54 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Of course, how dare anybody question what the government does.
Especially the NEW government....

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Under the Obama plan, hundreds of billions of dollars would go to cash-strapped local and state governments with the most irresponsible of those getting the most aid.

California, for example, has committed to spending $42 billion more than the state has over the next 12 months. The Democrat-controlled legislature has repeatedly stymied spending cuts, arguing for tax increases, while California's unemployment rate is poised to break into double digits. Look for California to seek the $42 billion from national taxpayers under the Obama public sector rescue plan.

Under the Obama plan, tens of billions of dollars will go to special interest groups within the Democratic Party coalition. ACORN, for example, will be eligible for more millions of taxpayer dollars than it already has to continue voter registration (voter fraud?) activities to help cement Democrat majorities across the country. Planned Parenthood, environmental organizations and even trial lawyers have all been in Washington to make sure they get a piece of the "bailout" as well.

Finally, the Obama plan provides for "tax cuts." The bulk of these "cuts" would be direct grants to Americans who already pay no income taxes.

The pursuit of "tax fairness" has prompted both Republican and Democratic institutions to raise the threshold of income earned before any income tax is paid. And, in a bipartisan consensus, the Earned Income Tax Credit has provided "refunds" to taxpayers who paid no tax in the first place.

The result to date is that more than a third of income-earning Americans pay no income tax, and many of these receive an annual subsidy in the form of EITC "refund." The Obama plan would expand the number of income-earning Americans who pay no income tax to more than 50 percent, thus providing a permanent base of majority vote to "tax the rich" and a permanent majority of votes to re-elect Democrats to office.
Real reasons for big bailouts
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:58 AM
 
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Okay is doing 'something' better than doing nothing?

Even if what you do will cost a trillion dollars and has no guarantee of success?

Ever wondered what would have happened if CONgress had not caved in to the first bailout and simply waited???
You're good at hypotheticals, just not solutions. Since life is lived in real time, your services will not be needed. THank you.
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:00 AM
 
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Absolutely, and that is why I did not vote for him in 2004. This is why I no longer will vote for President, that is until a real Republican emerges or a strong third party candidate. Any other questions?
If you don't vote, you have no right to complain.
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:04 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I guess you believe it better to do something even if it isn't likely to help...

Can you explain how going deeper into debt(with money you do not have) is the way to get out of debt?

The reason there is no solution is simply because the system of credit cannot be sustained...

You cannot borrow your way out of debt.
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