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Old 02-18-2009, 05:16 PM
 
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Anybody who claims that this cartoon isn't racist is ignorant of American history or racist.

There is a long history of racists comparing African Americans to apes. In addition, the cartoon follows a photo of Obama signing the bill in question. In recalling the historical and racist comparison between African Americans and apes, and being located, narratively, to follow the photo of Obama, the cartoon creates racist meaning through the device of metonymy, in which meaning is created via indirect association rather than a direct one-to-one connection. Finally, there is no other interpretation possible, because there is no historical connection of meaning between a chimpanzee and Congress passing a bill. Outside of a racist meaning, therefore, the cartoon makes no sense.

It's also worth noting that the only people on this forum who find it to be unoffensive are people with forum history of Obama-bashing.

No-brainer.

 
Old 02-18-2009, 05:20 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Ummm... the cartoon refers to the people who WROTE the stimulus bill. That's Pelosi, Ried, and other congresscritters.

Obama didn't write it.

Nice try, but you missed.
 
Old 02-18-2009, 05:21 PM
 
Location: West, Southwest, East & Northeast
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Originally Posted by MovingForward View Post
It's also worth noting that the only people on this forum who find it to be unoffensive are people with forum history of Obama-bashing.

No-brainer.
How about the Bush bashers comparing Bush to a chimp (http://www.bushorchimp.com/ - broken link)? Does that count...or is that okay?
 
Old 02-18-2009, 05:22 PM
 
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Ummm... the cartoon refers to the people who WROTE the stimulus bill. That's Pelosi, Ried, and other congresscritters.

Obama didn't write it.

Nice try, but you missed.
The cartoon makes no sense. What does a single chimpanzee have to do with the Congress? What does shooting the chimpanzee have to do with criticism of Congressional passage of a bill? Nothing, that's what.

Nice racist try on your part. But you missed it. By a long shot.
 
Old 02-18-2009, 05:23 PM
 
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How about the Bush bashers comparing Bush to a chimp (http://www.bushorchimp.com/ - broken link)? Does that count...or is that okay?
There is nothing racist about comparing Bush to a chimpanzee, since there is no historical context in which to read that comparison as racist.

It is, however, rather insulting to the chimpanzee.
 
Old 02-18-2009, 05:24 PM
 
Location: MI
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Inaccurate cartoon. The chimp was obviously a Republican, he was on prescription meds.
 
Old 02-18-2009, 05:24 PM
 
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Ban monkeys!!!! They are offensive!!!!!
 
Old 02-18-2009, 05:25 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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You are really strange! Where in this thread have I said anything that makes you believe I crossed any line? All I did was post a link (from a mainstream media news organization) and said "Gotta love it!".

You are pulling crap out of thin air... You are suggesting that it was me that came up with that cartoon. You are one weird Dumbocrat with racism upper most on your mind!
I'm strange you assume I think race is involved? Don't know where you got that obviously you are putting words in my mouth. As for your innocence.
New York Post that appears to tie President Obama to a rampaging chimpanzee killed by police
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A lot of Americans do compare Obama to that of a rabid chimp!
http://www.city-data.com/forum/7517423-post10.html
http://www.city-data.com/forum/7517564-post19.html
http://www.city-data.com/forum/7518679-post35.html
Guess you know how A Rod feels?
 
Old 02-18-2009, 05:26 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Originally Posted by MovingForward View Post
Anybody who claims that this cartoon isn't racist is ignorant of American history or racist.

There is a long history of racists comparing African Americans to apes. In addition, the cartoon follows a photo of Obama signing the bill in question. In recalling the historical and racist comparison between African Americans and apes, and being located, narratively, to follow the photo of Obama, the cartoon creates racist meaning through the device of metonymy, in which meaning is created via indirect association rather than a direct one-to-one connection. Finally, there is no other interpretation possible, because there is no historical connection of meaning between a chimpanzee and Congress passing a bill. Outside of a racist meaning, therefore, the cartoon makes no sense.
I totally agree with your observations here. The fact that some people can ignore the racist tone of that cartoon is a sad statement about our country.
 
Old 02-18-2009, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Bayou City
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Originally Posted by MovingForward View Post
There is nothing racist about comparing Bush to a chimpanzee, since there is no historical context in which to read that comparison as racist.

It is, however, rather insulting to the chimpanzee.

Too funny.
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