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what is? so the Reagan economy was Carter's fault? Does that mean we can blame clinton for the current economy?
Let's just put the date down now. Then, in 20?? we can all get past the "Bush did it" crap and get on with blaming the guy that is actually going to shred the economy as well as the constitution--President Barry.
Sorry ... but it just doesn't work that way.
Any mature, rational person would know this.
President Obama will do the best he can to restore the economy, and it will take him however long it takes.
Bush left the economy in such a horrible condition that it's impossible to predict a date on how long it will take to fix.
President Obama will do the best he can to restore the economy, and it will take him however long it takes.
Bush left the economy in such a horrible condition that it's impossible to predict a date on how long it will take to fix.
And Bush didn't try to do his best? What makes you think obama is going to do better?
Seriously...you can't have your cake and eat it to. At what point do Bush's effects wear off? Until it turns around, at which time you'll give King Barry the credit?
I'm sorry, but compared to what Carter did to the economy, it really does pale.
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The Bush economy was very good, up until the last 8 or so months.The numbers don't lie.
Thank You. you have finally admitted that the stock market crashing IS NOT President Obama's fault. Thanks for your admission that your Original Post Is False. We didn't know you had it within yourself to make such an admission of being wrong, we appreciate your honesty.
I'm sorry, but compared to what Carter did to the economy, it really does pale.
The Bush economy was very good, up until the last 8 or so months. The numbers don't lie.
But previously in this thread, you DID BLAME CARTER for todays problems. IN FACT, you have blamed several presidents and government policies for where we are now. so, which is it, you seem to be blaming everything and everyone for todays problems. maybe if you place blame in the correct place, you wouldn't have so many people disagreeing with you?
Thank You. you have finally admitted that the stock market crashing IS NOT President Obama's fault. Thanks for your admission that your Original Post Is False. We didn't know you had it within yourself to make such an admission of being wrong, we appreciate your honesty.
Sorry, it's an admission of nothing. You know, economies expand and contract all the time.
I said the bush economy was pretty good, up til about 8 months ago when the signs of contraction were underway. A normal thing really - you can't expect it to be booming forever.
Sorry, it's an admission of nothing. You know, economies expand and contract all the time.
yes it is.
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I said the bush economy was pretty good, up til about 8 months ago when the signs of contraction were underway. A normal thing really - you can't expect it to be booming forever.
You've admitted it in this sentence. are you saying you peered into a crystal ball and knew Mr. Obama would be elected president, and now he is being blamed for the wall street mess? if not, you are admitting the stocks started to tank under bushka, so why are you blaming Obama for anything, he has no control over the markets. can't you see that? we all know you hate Obama, but you could at least be honest about your post or threads you begin. If Mc Cain were president, who would you blame then?
just so we get it straight....at what point will you libs stop using that excuse?
June? November? 2013? At what point does it become Barry's fault?
Well, seeing as how I remember still hearing Clinton's name brought up by Repubs up to 4 years after Bush took office, I'd say they can use the old "Bush messed up" line for at least a year or two. Or is that only allowed for Republican presidents?
he has no control over the markets. can't you see that?
His words, comments, plans and the Porkapalooza bill have had an effect on the market. He is riddled with socialist ideology - and the stock market does not react well to that. He is planning on spending another trillion, not counting the budget - the market does not react well to that. He is planning a cap and trade system that will cost businesses, jobs and taxes - the market does not like it.
what is? so the Reagan economy was Carter's fault? Does that mean we can blame clinton for the current economy?
Let's just put the date down now. Then, in 20?? we can all get past the "Bush did it" crap and get on with blaming the guy that is actually going to shred the economy as well as the constitution--President Barry.
No, because Clinton left office with a budget surplus (not the same as no debt, our national debt was still astronomical) and the stock market was still riding high.
All Reagan supporters will say that Carter caused both recessions, but it's like the current one...it was caused by a lack of control over necessary industries (gasoline, banking) and by a drop in consumer confidence which added to already increasing pressure on retail services. The real cause of the Carter/Reagan recession was mostly due to the oil crisis caused by stupid American car companies that focused on building gas guzzlers instead of fuel efficient models, and a congress reluctant to do anything about forcing the auto industry to modernize...wait...isn't that a huge part of our current crisis?
Please do not comment on the economy when you clearly have no understanding of economics. The real problem is not really the president, but the members of Congress and the Senate who are too spineless to make decisions that might make them unpopular with the people, like adding a tax increase on gas (as proposed in 1976) to fund research on becoming more energy effecient and self-supporting or in repealing wasteful spending that accomplishes nothing, like the wars on drugs, prostitution, online gambling and other vices we could be taxing instead of policing. We also should be ending the endless wars on terror (you can't defeat a tactic, new terrorists will always pop up were none existed before) and Iraq (you know it's taken us longer to "liberate" Iraq than all of Western Europe...) if we are to have any kind of economic success.
Finally, anyone who actually knows anything about the stock market knows that the S&P 500 is a far more respectable measure of the current status of the stock market. Both clearly show a downward trend, but Obama's programs wont even be running for months, so anything attributed to "Obama" is really just fear, as nothing he has done has taken effect in our economy yet.
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